Trump: Obama 'founded ISIS'

[Dave24]

Donald Trump said Wednesday that President Obama "founded" the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

“ISIS is honoring President Obama,” he said during a rally in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. “He’s the founder of ISIS. He founded ISIS."

“I would say the co-founder would be ‘Crooked’ Hillary Clinton,” Trump added of Obama’s former secretary of State and his Democratic rival.

Trump criticized Obama’s decision to withdraw U.S. military forces from the Middle East and leaving behind a void ISIS could fill.

“We should never have gotten out the way we got out,” he said. “We unleashed terrible fury all over the Middle East."

“Instead of allowing some small forces behind to maybe, just maybe, keep it under control, we pulled it out,” the GOP’s presidential nominee added.

“Then Obama came in, and normally you want to clean up and he made a bigger mess. We’re not respected. We’re laughed at all over the world.”

Trump made similar comments last week, when he called Clinton the "founder of ISIS" and said "she should get an award from them."

Trump: Obama 'founded ISIS'

 

[Robbie3000]

I thought Trump was an isolationist. Doesn't he complain daily of other nations taking advantage of our military?

@King Kreole

Can you spin this or nah?

 

[DerrtySouthpaw]

says the guy endorsed by numerous white supremacist groups

 

[The G.O.D II]

Does this guy knows that ISIS is a rag tag off shoot of al queda or not?

 

[CACtain Planet]

Does this guy knows that ISIS is a rag tag off shoot of al queda or not?

:Lyesss:Prove that ALL of them are

 

[winb83]

Obama founded ISIS? What will it be tomorrow he was behind 9/11 too?

 

[King Kreole]

I thought Trump was an isolationist. Doesn't he complain daily of other nations taking advantage of our military?

@King Kreole

Can you spin this or nah?

I believe I can.

Nothing Trump said here is anti-isolationist. He's talking about post hoc policy. The United States had already invaded Iraq, there were better ways to extract from an already fukked up situation than the way the withdrawal was handled. Critiquing the shytty withdrawal is absolutely not an endorsement of the decision to go in in the first place. And it definitely doesn't portend future interventions. The "Obama founded ISIS" rhetoric is skirting a line, but an argument could be made that his foreign policy decisions allowed the group to fester and grow. His infamous "ISIS is a JV squad" comment comes to mind, as it betrayed a critical misapprehension of the situation on the ground. Obama was handed a fukked up situation, but he didn't really make it better. Don't trust me on this issue, watch the Richard Holbrooke documentary The Diplomat to see the utter dysfunction of the Obama administration in this area. I have no problem giving Trump leeway on this issue because he's on the right side of the fence here. Obama's foreign policy has really been disastrous and I'll be damned if I carry water for it.

 

[The G.O.D II]

:Lyesss:Prove that ALL of them are

Damn you are sad

 

[Robbie3000]

I believe I can.

Nothing Trump said here is anti-isolationist. He's talking about post hoc policy. The United States had already invaded Iraq, there were better ways to extract from an already fukked up situation than the way the withdrawal was handled. Critiquing the shytty withdrawal is absolutely not an endorsement of the decision to go in in the first place. And it definitely doesn't portend future interventions. The "Obama founded ISIS" rhetoric is skirting a line, but an argument could be made that his foreign policy decisions allowed the group to fester and grow. His infamous "ISIS is a JV squad" comment comes to mind, as it betrayed a critical misapprehension of the situation on the ground. Obama was handed a fukked up situation, but he didn't really make it better. Don't trust me on this issue, watch the Richard Holbrooke documentary The Diplomat to see the utter dysfunction of the Obama administration in this area. I have no problem giving Trump leeway on this issue because he's on the right side of the fence here. Obama's foreign policy has really been disastrous and I'll be damned if I carry water for it.

You get an A for effort.

 

[The G.O.D II]

I believe I can.

Nothing Trump said here is anti-isolationist. He's talking about post hoc policy. The United States had already invaded Iraq, there were better ways to extract from an already fukked up situation than the way the withdrawal was handled. Critiquing the shytty withdrawal is absolutely not an endorsement of the decision to go in in the first place. And it definitely doesn't portend future interventions. The "Obama founded ISIS" rhetoric is skirting a line, but an argument could be made that his foreign policy decisions allowed the group to fester and grow. His infamous "ISIS is a JV squad" comment comes to mind, as it betrayed a critical misapprehension of the situation on the ground. Obama was handed a fukked up situation, but he didn't really make it better. Don't trust me on this issue, watch the Richard Holbrooke documentary The Diplomat to see the utter dysfunction of the Obama administration in this area. I have no problem giving Trump leeway on this issue because he's on the right side of the fence here. Obama's foreign policy has really been disastrous and I'll be damned if I carry water for it.

They are a JV squad. They are basically an NBA D league team to Al Queda. And they hold no weight. Kurds and our airstrikes have kicked their asses. Now like roaches they won't be eradicated but to put them on the level of AQ, Hezbollah, etc is hilarious. I mean look at their attacks. Its akin to crackhead tactics

 

[King Kreole]

You get an A for effort.

They are a JV squad. They are basically an NBA D league team to Al Queda. And they hold no weight. Kurds and our airstrikes have kicked their asses. Now like roaches they won't be eradicated but to put them on the level of AQ, Hezbollah, etc is hilarious. I mean look at their attacks. Its akin to crackhead tactics

They're definitely losing territory and their end is imminent. The worry is increased domestic attacks in the West. Which is why it's all the more important that we don't step further into the mud like Hillary wants to do. ISIS will die off without an increase in US military pressure, there's no need for any more antagonistic acts in that region. We shouldn't allow ISIS to be used as a boogeyman like Saddam's "WMDs" were used to justify the Iraq invasion. Hillary talks tough on ISIS like Trump does, but she would have the wherewithal, ideology and mandate to follow through on it.

 

[StatUS]

The problem with ISIS is that they can't really be defeated. We can take them out with ease but those terror attacks that span the globe on a weekly basis is their real threat imo and that's just not gonna be stopped by military strength. Neither side really has a good address for this either.

 

[Shogun]

Obama founded ISIS? What will it be tomorrow he was behind 9/11 too?

Many people are saying Obama doesn't sleep. They say he stays up all night spraying aerosol cans up into the air trying to destroy the atmosphere for good white Christian babies.

 

[MWinn]

Involuntary admittance to the psych ward anyone?

 

[bzb]

attacks like this is trump's sweet spot. he leaves out a tremendous amount of background on the rise of isis, but it's easy for his low iq low info supporters to latch on to. he already has them thinking "something is going on" and obama is a muslim.

in the debates hillary would bash his head in with facts, history lessons, and a far better grasp of foreign affairs. but if trump can speak in generalities and not get pulled into specifics he might struggle through.

he's going to have to meet with some foreign leaders at some point before the election to gain some credibility with swing voters, but which world leader could actually stomach being in the same room as this guy?