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The stupid part of NXT Black and Gold is that they were just having these guys who had been in NXT for years having good to great matches when it wasn't really accomplishing anything for the main roster.

Like was it really necessary to still have Adam Cole in NXT when he was 31 and been there for four years?
Or early to mid 40s Bobby Fish in NXT ever?
Or early to mid 30s Kyle O'Reilly in NXT for 5 years or frankly ever?
Or mid to last 30s Roderick Strong in NXT for 7 years or frankly ever?
Did a mid 30s Tomamaso Ciampa still need to be in NXT in 2022 after being there for 7 years?
Did a mid 30s Keith Lee really need to be in NXT for 4 years?
Did Johnny Gargano really need to be in NXT for 6 years until he was in his mid 30s after all he accomplished there?

It's not like any of these guys actually needed to learn how to wrestle. Quite a lot of the peak NXT Black and Gold talent were coming from ROH which already did TV tapings so it's not like TV wrestling was a foreign concept to them. Sure it wasn't like WWE TV wrestling but it was still TV wrestling.

Not like these are NIL talents that had never stepped foot in a wrestling ring before coming to the PC. That's kind of the whole advantage of singing these indie guys, they don't have to be trained from the ground up on how to do the very basis. You already know when you sign them the caliber of in-ring talent you're getting.

It shouldn't take several years in the WWE system for WWE to realize those types of guys either are or aren't going to cut it on the main roster. At that point, let them loose and clear the way for the next crop of talent who need the TV time.

Like with Bobby Fish especially, they should have known before they even offered him his first NXT contract that he wasn't a WWE talent. Guy was already older than most of the damn main roster from day 1 at the PC.
 

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The stupid part of NXT Black and Gold is that they were just having these guys who had been in NXT for years having good to great matches when it wasn't really accomplishing anything for the main roster.

Like was it really necessary to still have Adam Cole in NXT when he was 31 and been there for four years?
Or early to mid 40s Bobby Fish in NXT ever?
Or early to mid 30s Kyle O'Reilly in NXT for 5 years or frankly ever?
Or mid to last 30s Roderick Strong in NXT for 7 years or frankly ever?
Did a mid 30s Tomamaso Ciampa still need to be in NXT in 2022 after being there for 7 years?
Did a mid 30s Keith Lee really need to be in NXT for 4 years?
Did Johnny Gargano really need to be in NXT for 6 years until he was in his mid 30s after all he accomplished there?

It's not like any of these guys actually needed to learn how to wrestle. Quite a lot of the peak NXT Black and Gold talent were coming from ROH which already did TV tapings so it's not like TV wrestling was a foreign concept to them. Sure it wasn't like WWE TV wrestling but it was still TV wrestling.

Not like these are NIL talents that had never stepped foot in a wrestling ring before coming to the PC. That's kind of the whole advantage of singing these indie guys, they don't have to be trained from the ground up on how to do the very basis. You already know when you sign them the caliber of in-ring talent you're getting.

It shouldn't take several years in the WWE system for WWE to realize those types of guys either are or aren't going to cut it on the main roster. At that point, let them loose and clear the way for the next crop of talent who need the TV time.

Like with Bobby Fish especially, they should have known before they even offered him his first NXT contract that he wasn't a WWE talent. Guy was already older than most of the damn main roster from day 1 at the PC.
The reason why Hunter kept them there was simple. He KNEW Vince was gonna fukk them up creatively as soon as they get called up.

That man planned on rebranding Adam Cole, cutting his hair, and was going to have him be the manager for Keith Lee.

He probably would have kept the rest of Undisputed Era in catering and/or on “Main Event” purgatory.

Before Hunter had his heart issues, Vince was straight up losing it. And Hunter was trying to hang on to what he created by a string..
 

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That man planned on rebranding Adam Cole, cutting his hair, and was going to have him be the manager for Keith Lee.

This was all debunked and was never going to happen.. yall gotta stop saying this shyt lol

The only possibility was a name change, everything else was Dave Meltzer bullshytting
 

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All Adam Cole said was that he didn’t hear anything about that. He didn’t flat out denial it…which is probably the reason why he didn’t want to resign.

And it wasn’t a coincidence that when LA Knight got called up, Vince rebranded him and made him a manager..
 

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All Adam Cole said was that he didn’t hear anything about that. He didn’t flat out denial it…which is probably the reason why he didn’t want to resign.

And it wasn’t a coincidence that when LA Knight got called up, Vince rebranded him and made him a manager..

Adam Cole as Max Dupri would have been wild hilarious. I’m not gon hold you
 

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The stupid part of NXT Black and Gold is that they were just having these guys who had been in NXT for years having good to great matches when it wasn't really accomplishing anything for the main roster.

Like was it really necessary to still have Adam Cole in NXT when he was 31 and been there for four years?
Or early to mid 40s Bobby Fish in NXT ever?
Or early to mid 30s Kyle O'Reilly in NXT for 5 years or frankly ever?
Or mid to last 30s Roderick Strong in NXT for 7 years or frankly ever?
Did a mid 30s Tomamaso Ciampa still need to be in NXT in 2022 after being there for 7 years?
Did a mid 30s Keith Lee really need to be in NXT for 4 years?
Did Johnny Gargano really need to be in NXT for 6 years until he was in his mid 30s after all he accomplished there?

It's not like any of these guys actually needed to learn how to wrestle. Quite a lot of the peak NXT Black and Gold talent were coming from ROH which already did TV tapings so it's not like TV wrestling was a foreign concept to them. Sure it wasn't like WWE TV wrestling but it was still TV wrestling.

Not like these are NIL talents that had never stepped foot in a wrestling ring before coming to the PC. That's kind of the whole advantage of singing these indie guys, they don't have to be trained from the ground up on how to do the very basis. You already know when you sign them the caliber of in-ring talent you're getting.

It shouldn't take several years in the WWE system for WWE to realize those types of guys either are or aren't going to cut it on the main roster. At that point, let them loose and clear the way for the next crop of talent who need the TV time.

Like with Bobby Fish especially, they should have known before they even offered him his first NXT contract that he wasn't a WWE talent. Guy was already older than most of the damn main roster from day 1 at the PC.
I thought it was pretty evident that by 2016 or 2017, the point of NXT was not to feed the main roster and not even develop talent for the main roster. The point was to create a WWE alternative for indy wrestling and give Hunter the reps in a managing position + lead creative.

He probably didn't want to get rid of his guys because he saw how difficult it was for them to succeed under Vince and he needed NXT to be a solid "3rd brand" that could compete with the smaller promotions in the US, because in those years WWE still was planning to have a bunch of overseas NXT territories lead by him.
 
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This should really confirm wrasslin isn’t as popular as the IWC/TSC thinks. The only ones tuning in are fans. I wonder if Raw can maintain the 1.6-1.8 mark when football season is over.
 
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