Travis Hunter’s Draft projection makes no sense

[Braman]

So I’ve shared my thoughts on Shaduer. This isn’t personal. When I see shyt that don’t add up I call it out. In no particular order:

1)12.9 yards per catch.

That is Travis’ yards per catch over 2 years. I have never seen a college WR who goes on to be a star NFL WR avg this few yards per catch. Especially in a watered down big 12. Travis was literally playing against future Enterprise managers and Golds gym supervisors. Future star WRs are supposed to dominate if not be otherworldly in college. Don’t take my word for it, career college ypc of various levels of WRs:

Spoiler

Jamar Chase- 19.6
CD Lamb- 19
MHJ- 16.9
Puka- 16.3
Odunze- 15.3
Nabers- 15.9
Zay Flowers- 15.3
BTJ- 14.9
Jaylen waddle- 18.9
Devonta Smith- 16.9
AJ Brown- 15.8
Garret Wilson- 15.5
George Pickens- 15.0
Jahan Dotson 15.1
Justin Jefferson- 14.6
Jordan Addison- 14.3
Ladd McConkey- 14.2

They all clear 14ypc, let alone 13. Travis is obviously an explosive athlete, so my only takeaway is he is not a polished route runner. Like Richard Sherman alluded to, but Travis got defensive and rejected legit criticism …a bit of foreshadowing

2) Ngga you not playing both ways full time. NFL players can barely get thru a season. He’s already frail, plus he’d be a walking soft tissue injury, assuming he’s even good enough at both positions. Speaking of which..

3) Tet McMillan is the better WR prospect. Will Johnson is the better DB prospect. There is no value added for playing 2 positions, so why is he rated above both?

If Travis is smart he’ll focus on 1 side. I lean toward DB. At WR, I don’t know who his comp is. From the naked eye his elite trait is YAC. I would say contested catch ability, but his lean frame makes that questionable.

On defense, the comps are better and easier. Antonio cromartie, a bigger Deangelo hall, Derek Stingley, Trevon Diggs. Elite athletes with elite ball skills. Any of those dudes could have played WR in college. But they focused on 1 side and benefited. If Travis focuses just at DB he can have that type of career. If he gives part-time focus he’s gonna get cooked

 

[mastermind]

I actually agree that he should focus on being a DB that can do hood rat things on offense sometimes. Like 5-10 snaps a game on offense but full time DB.

 

[feelosofer]

I think Travis Hunter is a much better CB than WR or I should say his skill set fits that position so much better.

 

[Born2BKing]

So I’ve shared my thoughts on Shaduer. This isn’t personal. When I see shyt that don’t add up I call it out. In no particular order:

1)12.9 yards per catch.

That is Travis’ yards per catch over 2 years. I have never seen a college WR who goes on to be a star NFL WR avg this few yards per catch. Especially in a watered down big 12. Travis was literally playing against future Enterprise managers and Golds gym supervisors. Future star WRs are supposed to dominate if not be otherworldly in college. Don’t take my word for it, career college ypc of various levels of WRs:

Spoiler

Jamar Chase- 19.6
CD Lamb- 19
MHJ- 16.9
Puka- 16.3
Odunze- 15.3
Nabers- 15.9
Zay Flowers- 15.3
BTJ- 14.9
Jaylen waddle- 18.9
Devonta Smith- 16.9
AJ Brown- 15.8
Garret Wilson- 15.5
George Pickens- 15.0
Jahan Dotson 15.1
Justin Jefferson- 14.6
Jordan Addison- 14.3
Ladd McConkey- 14.2

They all clear 14ypc, let alone 13. Travis is obviously an explosive athlete, so my only takeaway is he is not a polished route runner. Like Richard Sherman alluded to, but Travis got defensive and rejected legit criticism …a bit of foreshadowing

2) Ngga you not playing both ways full time. NFL players can barely get thru a season. He’s already frail, plus he’d be a walking soft tissue injury, assuming he’s even good enough at both positions. Speaking of which..

3) Tet McMillan is the better WR prospect. Will Johnson is the better DB prospect. There is no value added for playing 2 positions, so why is he rated above both?

If Travis is smart he’ll focus on 1 side. I lean toward DB. At WR, I don’t know who his comp is. From the naked eye his elite trait is YAC. I would say contested catch ability, but his lean frame makes that questionable.

On defense, the comps are better and easier. Antonio cromartie, a bigger Deangelo hall, Derek Stingley, Trevon Diggs. Elite athletes with elite ball skills. Any of those dudes could have played WR in college. But they focused on 1 side and benefited. If Travis focuses just at DB he can have that type of career. If he gives part-time focus he’s gonna get cooked

So where do you think his projection should be?

 

[Professor K.]

If breh can be 70% of what Deion was in 96 for his career, that's worth a top 5 pick and a top 20 talent in the league

 

[VegetasHairline]

The Coli's Mel Kiper has spoken.

 

[Copy Ninja]

WRs make significantly more money than CBs

Why Wide Receivers Get Paid So Much More Than Cornerbacks

Despite being two sides of the same coin, wideouts have earned significantly larger contracts than their coverage counterparts.

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[Bigwhite2498]

So I’ve shared my thoughts on Shaduer. This isn’t personal. When I see shyt that don’t add up I call it out. In no particular order:

1)12.9 yards per catch.

That is Travis’ yards per catch over 2 years. I have never seen a college WR who goes on to be a star NFL WR avg this few yards per catch. Especially in a watered down big 12. Travis was literally playing against future Enterprise managers and Golds gym supervisors. Future star WRs are supposed to dominate if not be otherworldly in college. Don’t take my word for it, career college ypc of various levels of WRs:

Spoiler

Jamar Chase- 19.6
CD Lamb- 19
MHJ- 16.9
Puka- 16.3
Odunze- 15.3
Nabers- 15.9
Zay Flowers- 15.3
BTJ- 14.9
Jaylen waddle- 18.9
Devonta Smith- 16.9
AJ Brown- 15.8
Garret Wilson- 15.5
George Pickens- 15.0
Jahan Dotson 15.1
Justin Jefferson- 14.6
Jordan Addison- 14.3
Ladd McConkey- 14.2

They all clear 14ypc, let alone 13. Travis is obviously an explosive athlete, so my only takeaway is he is not a polished route runner. Like Richard Sherman alluded to, but Travis got defensive and rejected legit criticism …a bit of foreshadowing

2) Ngga you not playing both ways full time. NFL players can barely get thru a season. He’s already frail, plus he’d be a walking soft tissue injury, assuming he’s even good enough at both positions. Speaking of which..

3) Tet McMillan is the better WR prospect. Will Johnson is the better DB prospect. There is no value added for playing 2 positions, so why is he rated above both?

If Travis is smart he’ll focus on 1 side. I lean toward DB. At WR, I don’t know who his comp is. From the naked eye his elite trait is YAC. I would say contested catch ability, but his lean frame makes that questionable.

On defense, the comps are better and easier. Antonio cromartie, a bigger Deangelo hall, Derek Stingley, Trevon Diggs. Elite athletes with elite ball skills. Any of those dudes could have played WR in college. But they focused on 1 side and benefited. If Travis focuses just at DB he can have that type of career. If he gives part-time focus he’s gonna get cooked

Trevon actually did play wr at bama then switched over. Even then he’s still not all that technically sound and gets beat. Everything else I 100% agree on. But if you say anything except he’s amazing first overall pick you get called a c00n.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

If breh can be 70% of what Deion was in 96 for his career, that's worth a top 5 pick and a top 20 talent in the league

Did you just compare him to the second best athlete of all time? Who was a corner in college full time?

 

[Bigwhite2498]

The Coli's Mel Kiper has spoken.

Why do you disagree

 

[Max Power]

He's a Sunday defensive back, it's very simple.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

He's a Sunday defensive back, it's very simple.

I mean has he ever went up against top talent wasn’t he hurt that Arizona game

 

[King P]

Deion has already insinuated that Travis won't play for a team that won't let him play both sides

I'll concede to your point that Hunter individually isn't the best prospect at either position. The question then becomes this: what is the value in a guy who you can play as both your #2 CB AND your #2 WR, which in the process also saves you a roster spot

 

[Dem313wayz]

Travis should definitely be a DB. I think focusing on both sides hurt his development. Is his technique gonna be good enough for DB in the nfl.

Definitely needs to get stronger

 

[Deafheaven]

Deion has already insinuated that Travis won't play for a team that won't let him play both sides

I'll concede to your point that Hunter individually isn't the best prospect at either position. The question then becomes this: what is the value in a guy who you can play as both your #2 CB AND your #2 WR, which in the process also saves you a roster spot

Its no way someone that slight is playing both sides in NFL for any considerable amount of time. also if you do use him as your 1 or 2 wr/db then if he is out that leaves an even bigger hole in your team.