Jack Cartwheel nice tho
I’m not even joking. I saw homie have a banger once with Lio Rush on some GCW show. His offense creative as hell
That shyt has zero appeal the way it’s packaged though lol
TONY KHAN STINKS! ("WBD OWNS A PERCENTAGE OF AEW." - DAVE MELTZER; DYNAMITE CONTINUES LOSING TO NXT; DYNAMITE NO MILLION WATCH: 631 DAYS/90 WEEKS)
- Thread starter Brad Piff
- Start date
I’m not even joking. I saw homie have a banger once with Lio Rush on some GCW show. His offense creative as hell
That shyt has zero appeal the way it’s packaged though lol
Yeah see my last post lolJack Cartwheel nice tho
I’m not even joking. I saw homie have a banger once with Lio Rush on some GCW show. His offense creative as hell
That shyt has zero appeal the way it’s packaged though lol
That's what I said a few posts up about ol' boy with Bear Country. If Tony would put some effort into the wrestlers' packages (No Diddy, just in case), then we might start caring about those bamas. Tony just putting some unknown indy random, whether they're nice or not, in a 10 minute tv "banger" with no buildup, no introduction, and no character development is the same thing that Vanessa did with Dabnis:Jack Cartwheel nice tho
I’m not even joking. I saw homie have a banger once with Lio Rush on some GCW show. His offense creative as hell
That shyt has zero appeal the way it’s packaged though lol
We'll never care about them as long as Tony keeps presenting them to us on trash can lids.
firemanBk
The Manslayer
"Where the big boys play" was a much better tag line and made sense at the beginning of the Monday Night Wars as WCW had a really star studded rusted while WWF was struggling bad and losing stars left and right.At what point will they realize this little “where the best wrestle” tag line they keep trying to emphasize doesn’t appeal to anyone but the hardcore mark fanbase they already have? Where the best wrestle isn’t going to be enough for them.
You know what… I’ve never really thought about it, but I’m realizing that one of the problems is Tony kinda brings indy guys in as is. They come in and do exactly what they’ve been doing everywhere else. The presentation doesn’t change, there’s no real development.. it’s just a continuation of what they’re already doing/ have been doing.
It’s like Tony really has no ground sense of creative direction when it comes to nuances like that. We’ve seen WWE bring in guys like Sami Zayn, completely strip em of what they had done prior and pull a new character out of him. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. shyt, they’re currently doing it with Lexus King. If Tony Khan got his hands on Sami, that muhfukka would still be wearing a mask talmbout “ole!”
And that’s not me saying everyone has to completely rebrand, but some of these Jack Cartwheel types are undercooked but have *something*.. if some type of real development was put into them, they could probably have solid potential.. but if there’s nobody there to pull that potential out of em.. well, he’s just a nikka doing cartwheels
Last edited:
Facts!
You see it!
And some of that goes on the wrestlers too. I mean, look at Toni Storm. I’m sure she came up with that timeless shyt herself and got it over. It was way different than anything she had done before that
But I almost feel there also has to be a sense of “let’s really find your thing and hone it in” from a higher up perspective on a large scale to really get shyt crackin.
Finn Baller
Superstar
I've been saying this for years about Tony Khan. Dude doesn't have any creativity inside his brain whatsoever.
Dustin Rhodes becoming Goldust took him to an entirely different level
Cactus Jack becoming Mankind and then Dude Love before bringing Cactus back made him a bigger star
Mean Mark Callous becoming the Undertaker
Ted DiBiase becoming the Million Dollar Man
Curt Hennig becoming Mr Perfect
obviously there were some big swings and misses there but when you take chances like that, the hits are gonna be bigger. AEW never puts their "stamp" on a guy, even MJF was this exact same character in MLW and the indies. Same for OC and Darby and some of their other "success stories"
Dipsey Doo
Superstar
IMO, TK never intended for Swerve to be AEW champion. MJF and Adam Cole got hurt and Swerve got over with the fans at the right moment.
TK doesn’t know how to effectively pivot when plans have to change.
Organic Trees
Go Cavs! #LetEmKnow
Their audience doesn’t want that. They prefer a Indy style of wrestling
KFBF
Superstar
This, to me, is a more wild shirt design than the stupid dv shyt Britt had.
I'd argue Tony doesn't think that it's a problem. It can't be a dream match if the indy guy is now someone else completely. The sickos he's booking for dont want indie guys repackaged, they just want them on a larger platform.
Last edited:
Finn Baller
Superstar
by the time he put the belt on Swerve the fans had already found their new favorite action figure in Will Ospreay
I mean, they say that but then turn around and call Toni Storm the best gimmick in wrestling (which she actually is one of)
They also love Oranges character..
I think AEW’s die hards are a lot more open to shyt than we think. They might think they’re against WWE style characters and storytelling, but the reality is they aren’t. Look how excited they get when WWE guys make that jump. They aren’t against WWE’s presentation, they just hate WWE itself and aren’t being honest about it
The AEW superfans who think all that bloodline shyt sucks, clown Jey’s in ring skills etc. would be throwing up 1’s if Roman’s music hit on Dynamite and he came from behind that curtain with Jey and Jimmy