This new pope is too Trill. Says church is focused on the wrong issues.

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Says the Church should move past its Mwogliesque focus on gays, abortion etc.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...ay-marriage/ScNThu3kgpwdUx3wu8CPDI/story.html

Pope Francis, in an extraordinary interview that electrified the Catholic world, said that the Roman Catholic Church has become unduly obsessed with condemning abortion, gay marriage, and contraception.

The church, he said, should emphasize compassion and mercy instead of “small-minded rules.”

“We have to find a new balance; otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel,” the pope said in the 12,000-word interview, published by major Jesuit publications around the world, including the New York-based America magazine.

US bishops have put abortion, contraception, and gay marriage at the top of their public agenda, and some — notably Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence — have openly criticized Francis for failing to speak out on abortion

In the interview, the pope said that although he embraces church doctrine, which defines gay relationships and abortion as sinful, “it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time.”

He also elaborated on a comment he made about gay priests this summer: “Who am I to judge?”

“A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality,” he said. “I replied with another question: ‘Tell me: When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ ”

The Rev. James Bretzke, a professor of theology at Boston College, said the interview with the first pope from the Jesuit order leaves no doubt Francis is trying to shift the church’s emphasis.

“It clearly shows that while the pope has heard criticisms of his style, remarks, actions, and lack of actions, he is not accepting these, and he believes he has to reconfigure the tenor of the church,” he said
 

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He shut it down with this answer ‘Tell me: When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’
 

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I'll respect him when he's "trill" enough to expose and expell all dem priests known for seeking out young boys for sexual interests. Until them he just another religious snake sent to mislead & fool the masses.
 

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think of the political rammifications, particularly in the ever expanding "hispanic" (largely catholic) demographic. The GOP has been holding onto hope that it would win over SOME of the hispanic vote based on wedge issues like abortion and gay marriage. Turns out the pope is pulling the rug out on that, not to mention it would free up the conscience of liberal minded catholics who have been voting based on these one or two issues.

Come on GOP, even the Catholic church in all its archaic glory is getting with the times.
 

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Come on GOP, even the Catholic church in all its archaic glory is getting with the times.
The pope is not saying abortion and gay marriage are good. They still considered sins. If a person sins, he or she can ask God for forgiveness and God is a graceful God who forgives. The pope is not saying you can do gay stuff and abort a baby, and not have to ask God for forgiveness anymore. You still do if you want your sins forgiven.
What he's getting at is the church has to be as forgiving and accepting of a Catholic person who does homosexual activity as much as a heterosexual Catholic who commits adultery or fornication. It's not a free-for-all for sodomy.
 

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If it turns out this guy is even getting a lil p*ssy on the side, that may be enough to get me back to going to church.
 

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The pope is not saying abortion and gay marriage are good. They still considered sins. If a person sins, he or she can ask God for forgiveness and God is a graceful God who forgives. The pope is not saying you can do gay stuff and abort a baby, and not have to ask God for forgiveness anymore. You still do if you want your sins forgiven.
What he's getting at is the church has to be as forgiving and accepting of a Catholic person who does homosexual activity as much as a heterosexual Catholic who commits adultery or fornication. It's not a free-for-all for sodomy.
Correct. I'm not saying he is saying those things are bad, but let's face it. The GOP and their Ayn Rand type philosophy stand in stark contrast to what the bible, particularly the new testament, teaches. Outside of abortion and gay marriage the GOP has little in common with "the church", but they've been able to hold religion hostage based on those two wedge issues.

Assuming this guy doesn't get smoked the changes he's putting forth stand to revolutionize the church. I'm not even Catholic, but it's pretty damn clear things will be changing sooner than later.
 
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