This is the late 19th century again. People now find politics more entertaining than movies, professional sports or music.

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What’s crazy is how “must see TV” politics now is. That’s not a great sign because that means shyt is getting closer to conflict. When the ridiculous brash morons started to jump in, shyt became a mess. It was one thing dealing with 2008-2010 Fox News Republicans, but MAGA is a whole other level.

I think we’re at the point more people are tuned into this on average than sports. Politics was great when it wasn’t this batshyt nuts and sports was bigger news. The more amount of viewers has resulted in a worse but more addicting product, with real life consequences. People used to use sports to be racist, now they got their audience with politics.

The dopamine from sports simply don’t hit like the new age of politics does. It’s basically everywhere now to the point people know the people in Congress more than they do team rosters. I think more people in America know who Tulsi Gabbard and Pam Bondi are than they know who the sixth man on the Lakers is.



99% of the comments were basically about politics. Regarding that, Stephen A. was basically dead on though.

We used to see former Presidents at the Super Bowl and nobody made a fuss about it, the last Super Bowl had so much political talk around it. Night-after-night people used to watch the NBA on TNT, now they’re scrolling social media for crazy ass takes.



The industry of Professional sports is a 20th century creation and its popularity and following is a 20th century endeavor. In the 19th century politics dominated media coverage and public interest . It was during the 1880s and 1890s just before the Jim Crow poll tax, Dixiecrat primaries , grandfather clause and other voting restriction methods that voter turnout reached its peak. After 1900 for obvious reasons the number of voters significantly diminished. Even giving women the right to vote 20 years later in 1920 didn’t increase the total amount of voters much . Women voted 30-40% less than men in the last century because they weren’t familiar with the political system yet, they were new rookies to politics. And in the Jim Crow south, black women couldn’t vote anyway.
 
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A lot of these other industries can’t compete anymore with the political news cycle.

In terms of content (dopamine hit) there’s dang near a whole new topic, controversy, commotion every single night in the world of politics. The big difference is how brash it is now in mainstream.

Everyone wants to say the quality of the other fields has went down and I agree, but the main thing is on average it’s not as crazy as the realtime constantly-changing news cycle. Additionally, tech is simply crazy right now. A.I has figured out or is really close to figuring out how to make “great singing genes” so it’s like special-talented people won’t even be that rare anymore.

Anyways, as of right now: Politics will have to get boring again for these other industries to shine once more like they did in the past.

 
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A lot of these other industries can’t compete anymore with the political news cycle.

In terms of content (dopamine hit) There’s dang near a whole new topic, controversy, commotion every single night in the world of politics. The big difference is how brash it is now in mainstream.

Politics will have to get boring again for these other industries to shine once more like they did in the past.

Politics is never "boring" nor should it ever be described as such. Who gives a shyt about sports and other distractions when people are fukking over your livelihood, your well being?

If people paid more attention to politics we would not be in the fukking mess that we are. You better be consuming political content because it actually affects your life. Nothing else as far as "content" comes close.
 

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Politics is never "boring" nor should it ever be described as such. Who gives a shyt about sports and other distractions when people are fukking over your livelihood, your well being?

If people paid more attention to politics we would not be in the fukking mess that we are. You better be consuming political content because it actually affects your life. Nothing else as far as "content" comes close.
I think you’re missing the point. Never said politics wasn’t important.

The crazy attention around politics though has siphoned it away from other fields. It being exponentially more brash than the past also has something to do with it. Trump = ratings basically.

All this attention on politics hasn’t made people smarter nor more well-informed either if the last election was any indication as well. In fact, it’s probably got worse.
 

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A lot of these other industries can’t compete anymore with the political news cycle.

In terms of content (dopamine hit) there’s dang near a whole new topic, controversy, commotion every single night in the world of politics. The big difference is how brash it is now in mainstream.

Politics will have to get boring again for these other industries to shine once more like they did in the past.

People involved in politics should be pragmatic, boring, discret, intelligent, efficient and competent. Politics should be an arena where people make good decisions for everyone instead of pissing off and ruining everyone. I miss when statesmen in charge were actually responsible adults. Now they behave like immature and selfish edgelords and social media thugs who love to talk shyt and give shyt to others but hate to receive the same treatment.

In Every period of recent human history that People were this passionate about politics, it meant that disaster like wars or social upheaval was to follow right after that . They felt that a vibe shift was coming soon.

Revolutionary war era
Civil war era/reconstruction/return of white supremacy
Rise of western imperial colonialism in Africa
Rise of Jim Crow
WW1 breakout
Russian communist revolution
Rise of Mussolini and hitler
WW2 breakout
Civil rights movement era
Right now
 

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Politics is never "boring" nor should it ever be described as such. Who gives a shyt about sports and other distractions when people are fukking over your livelihood, your well being?

If people paid more attention to politics we would not be in the fukking mess that we are. You better be consuming political content because it actually affects your life. Nothing else as far as "content" comes close.
Yeah what you gonna do about it?
You gonna hire all those federal employees who got bushed?
You're going to resurrect the Hispanic girl who committed suicide because of bullying over immigration?
What's the point of consuming copious amounts of political content?
What you gonna do about it?
4 years from now people will still vote for the same racists and idiots

fukk all that..I can't blame people who avoid it just like Hollywood Gossip
 

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I read a book called The Siren's Call, by Chris Hayes, who isn't very political in the book, but he is an MSNBC host. It's about how attention has become the capital of the 21st century.

What's happened is that social media infected the way we all see the world. and the way the world reacts to it. So politicians have to compete for attention the same way everyone does on social media. By saying increasingly extreme things and trolling. Politics is a spectacle, because that's what people want to see, that's what social media is. People communicate in images, short, extreme statements. That's what our politics has become. Social media has changed the face and structure of almost everything.

Movies, and music both play to social media now. All the spheres of the world dance for social media now essentially.
 

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People involved in politics should be pragmatic, boring, discret, intelligent, efficient and competent. Politics should be an arena where people make good decisions for everyone instead of pissing off and ruining everyone. I miss when statesmen in charge were actually responsible adults. Now they behave like immature and selfish edgelords and social media thugs who love to talk shyt and give shyt to others but hate to receive the same treatment.

In Every period of recent human history that People were this passionate about politics, it meant that disaster like wars or social upheaval was to follow right after that . They felt that a vibe shift was coming soon.

Revolutionary war era
Civil war era/reconstruction/return of white supremacy
Rise of western imperial colonialism in Africa
Rise of Jim Crow
WW1 breakout
Russian communist revolution
Rise of Mussolini and hitler
WW2 breakout
Civil rights movement era
Right now
Yes exactly, because then morons wouldn’t have the attention span to sit through that stuff.

They can sit through this stuff today though because of how moronic and how “easy and simple” they think it is. Trump and MAGA made people think politics and government is really that easy.

Trump and MAGA is like the perfect storm to attract the large amount of voting morons. It doesn’t even need Fox News to spread dumb shyt because Trump/MAGA provide dumb content that makes it’s rounds on CNN, MSNBC, social media, etc.

If JD Vance wants to win, dude just needs to start acting dumb af these next four years, be a conspiracy loon and it’ll make headlines. People will love it and more people will tune in because they think they’ll be “well-informed”.
 
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There was this idea among many, esp. the left and Libertarian/technocrat kind of side, that the "democratasizing" of the internet would free everyone from constraints of old media. Everyone would become MORE informed, better able to understand the world, when the guardrails of mainstream media were lifted. This was like 20 years ago, around the beginning of mainstream internet use, and for sure as Facebook began to rise to dominance around 2008.

What happened is the opposite. As people's access to information got wider, they were less able to understand or reasonably interpret it. So, information access has run wider and wider. And just like communication has become flattened, we rely on emoji's, or symbols, or gestures, or slogans or images, we signal through thumbs up or liking a post. The debate style is brutal, shouting down and shaming.

information has become similarly flattened, to hashtags, or MAGA or Resistance, or whatever it is. People seek to politicize any story to fit their narrative or their side. There is very limited objective analysis.

The institutions and the public have lost all control over all these things.
 

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Yeah what you gonna do about it?
You gonna hire all those federal employees who got bushed?
You're going to resurrect the Hispanic girl who committed suicide because of bullying over immigration?
What's the point of consuming copious amounts of political content?
What you gonna do about it?
4 years from now people will still vote for the same racists and idiots

fukk all that..I can't blame people who avoid it just like Hollywood Gossip
Same stupid fukking thought process had people depending on gov medical assistance to vote for people that said they will cut it

Same stupid fukking thought process had people working in the federal government voting for people that said they were going to fire them

Same stupid fukking thought process had people voting against their interests because "politics don't matter"

Too many people stay willfully ignorant about politics and what is going on, then cry like hoes when their lives get affected. You ignore what is going on and get hurt? It's your fukking fault.
 
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There was this idea among many, esp. the left and Libertarian/technocrat kind of side, that the "democratasizing" of the internet would free everyone from constraints of old media. Everyone would become MORE informed, better able to understand the world, when the guardrails of mainstream media were lifted. This was like 20 years ago, around the beginning of mainstream internet use, and for sure as Facebook began to rise to dominance around 2008.

What happened is the opposite. As people's access to information got wider, they were less able to understand or reasonably interpret it. So, information access has run wider and wider. And just like communication has become flattened, we rely on emoji's, or symbols, or gestures, or slogans or images, information has become similarly flattened, to hashtags, or MAGA or Resistance, or whatever it is.

The institutions and the public have lost all control over all these things.
Yup. The Clickbait title meta.

One of my main hopes to counter is A.I breaking articles down so people can be somewhat more well-informed easier.

Downside is people have shown they don’t care about that and will dive in headfirst into what they want to believe anyways (like conspiracy theories from MAGA).

People voted for Trump because they thought he’d bring JFK back or some shyt and how’d get that info? The news.

People are simply tuning in waiting to hear what they want to hear from a politician and they’ll go headfirst diving right in. That’s what politics is and what the news has become.
 

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Same stupid fukking thought process had people depending on gov medical assistance to vote for people that said they will cut it

Same stupid fukking thought process had people working in the federal government voting for people that said they were going to fire them

Same stupid fukking thought process had people voting against their interests because "politics don't matter"

Too many people stay willfully ignorant about politics and what is going on, then cry like hoes when their lives get affected. You ignore what is going on and get hurt? It's your fukking fault.
Nah the bigger issue is people who intentionally vote against their interests because of racism and hatred
I guarantee you all these DEI firings are affecting more white people than black people..but somehow, somewhere DEI became synonymous with Black people
 

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I think you’re missing the point. Never said politics wasn’t important.

The crazy attention around politics though has siphoned it away from other fields. It being exponentially more brash than the past also has something to do with it. Trump = ratings basically.

All this attention on politics hasn’t made people smarter nor more well-informed either if the last election was any indication as well. In fact, it’s probably got worse.
What attention? We had so many sources of news reporting on the facts of the election and people still chose to not only ignore it, but to believe whatever Trump said because it "felt right".

You had federal workers literally hear Trump say he was going to go after their jobs and still voted for him because they were not "DEI".

You had people will ties to people dealing with immigration vote Trump because he will only go after the "bad ones".

You had people depending on gov assistance hearing Trump is going after it but it's fine because he is not going after them.

There should always be attention to politics and policy because it controls everything in this country. Regardless of whether everyone will pay attention it still needs to be out there for the rational and clear thinking. For a lot of people, they will not understand how important politics is until they feel the pain of their poor choices.
 

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Yup. The Clickbait title meta.

One of my main hopes to counter is A.I breaking articles down so people can be somewhat more well-informed easier.

Downside is people have shown they don’t care about that and will dive in headfirst into what they want to believe anyways (like conspiracy theories from MAGA).

People voted for Trump because they thought he’d bring JFK back or some shyt and how’d get that info? The news.

How social media affected and impacted the institution of the legacy news media, is that they basically become co opted. Legacy media was hurting post Recession for a variety of reasons, and social media was at the gates of the gatekeepers.

When legacy media realized people were beginning to pay more attention to Facebook, or Twitter, they began to cover what happened and what was said on social media. So a tweet became a news story. The 2015/2016 campagin is a perfect example of this. He tweeted and the world reacted. First through CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, late night shows, and on on and on. Repeat cycle. But, he became the dominant story.

And that's starts the gradual hollowing out of the legacy News Media, as they became dependent on social media stories for their coverage. And politicians for their own survival act in outrageous ways, and get coverage, because what they really need is attention. And what gets attention in the last 10 years is basically trolling, and extreme behavior. This all flows from social media seizing the publics attention with a powerful powerful mechanism that hooks you into their value reward system.
 
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