The USA's achievements in Iraq

[Ikwa]

Spend billions fighting a useless war only for Islamic forces (which did not operate in the country prior) to get stronger with time brehs

Islamic Militants Extend Battle Into Another Iraqi Province
BAGHDAD — A powerful jihadist group that has been fighting in Iraq’s Anbar region has taken over parts of a neighboring province, seizing three villages on Wednesday after a battle with government forces, according to security officials.

The forces of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki responded by preparing for a counter-offensive in the northern province, Salahuddin, even as they surrounded Anbar’s main city of Falluja, where the jihadist group, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, has seized control.

“The Islamic state of Iraq and the Levant are trying to distract our forces by having some of their members control this area here and there to move the battle from Anbar Province into other provinces like Salahuddin, Diyala and Mosul,” a security official said.

ISIS has become emboldened in the war in neighboring Syria, and in Iraq it has been fighting Mr. Maliki’s forces, mainly in Anbar Province.

While Al Qaeda’s central leadership has officially cut ties with the group, ISIS shares its ideology as it fights the Shiite-dominated government in Iraq and in Syria with the broader aim of building an Islamic state on its own terms.

Mr. Maliki, who has massed government forces outside of Falluja, said in his weekly speech on Wednesday: “The battle is about to end in Anbar.”

The fighting in the provinces is taking place as the capital continues to be the scene of daily bombings.

For the second consecutive day, the international zone, which is the seat of diplomatic and government offices, was attacked on Wednesday. Two dozen people were killed when suicide bombers and a vehicle packed with explosives detonated at or near entrances to the zone, according to the Interior Ministry.

In a separate attack on Wednesday, two car bombs exploded near a public market in southern Baghdad, killing 12 people and wounding 23.

Two rockets, identified as Katyushas, struck the international zone on Tuesday, killing a soldier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/06/w...-battle-into-another-iraqi-province.html?_r=0

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria now operates all over Western, Central and Northern Iraq as well as Northern and Eastern Syria
They control the border

to the USA for being the culprit to the creation of the ISIS. A group that went from being non-existant during Sadam's reign, to being in control of large provinces in both Iraq and Syria :mjkkk:

 

[Blackking]

US foreign policy has been a top creator of extremist in modern times--- but I believe that's been the point since the 70's w us.

 

[Lebron Johnson]

I look at this like the war against drugs. Yes, the crime is increasing- but its mostly due to an increase in population and the fact that the police are arresting more and more people. The police get better, they arrest more, statistics for crime go up.

However, we don't know what it would have been like if we never fought the war in Iraq. My guess is that the current situation would be even worse. They say that the war in Iraq has been used to increase the terrorist's volunteers (through propaganda), to form a common enemy and otherwise strengthen our opposition.

However, we are killing the absolute shyt out of them. There is no way that it is a net positive for the terrorists, and unfortunately innocent civilians, and anyone else in our way.

EDIT: also, just because these a$$holes are moving around to different countries, doesn't mean they are increasing overall . Additionally, these are self-reported figures by the terrorists. How the hell else would we know how many there are? "Intelligence"? In countries where no one has social security numbers, no one legally exists. I can't imagine a reliable way for us to make an accurate estimation.

 

[Ikwa]

However, we don't know what it would have been like if we never fought the war in Iraq. My guess is that the current situation would be even worse. They say that the war in Iraq has been used to increase the terrorist's volunteers (through propaganda), to form a common enemy and otherwise strengthen our opposition.

the situation would have been worse?
You can't be serious breh, how can the situation be worse than sectarian violence, daily mass bombings, prison breaks, women rights degrading and so on. You can think what you want of Sadam's reign but at least there was stability and security, Iraqis from all walks of life have said that they were better off under Sadam.

EDIT: also, just because these @ssholes are moving around to different countries, doesn't mean they are increasing overall . ADDITIONALLY, these are self-reported figures by the terrorists. How the hell else would we know how many there are? "Intelligence"? In countries where no one has social security numbers, no one legally exists. I can't imagine a reliable way for us to make an accurate estimation.

These guys clearly control whole provinces in Syria and Iraq, they secured border crossings and have freedom of movement between both countries. You have local tribes siding with them to fight the regimes' oppression. All this is well known and can be checked breh don't be a robot that believes all that comes from the mainstream media.

 

[Lebron Johnson]

Yea I agree with a lot of that. I know I am making some pretty wild assumptions, especially considering all I know about this crap is from the internet. I guess I just want to believe man!

 

[Kritic]

Spend billions fighting a useless war only for Islamic forces (which did not operate in the country prior) to get stronger with time brehs

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria now operates all over Western, Central and Northern Iraq as well as Northern and Eastern Syria
They control the border

to the USA for being the culprit to the creation of the ISIS. A group that went from being non-existant during Sadam's reign, to being in control of large provinces in both Iraq and Syria :mjkkk:

its a win for the military complex and industry and companies that secure contracts to participate in those wars. kinda like swat team super cops loving the fake war on drugs. without these fake wars there'd be jobless. we're not just talking jobs here.. we're talking billions of dollars.. and careers.

 

[the cac mamba]

 

[Ikwa]

its a win for the military complex and industry and companies that secure contracts to participate in those wars. kinda like swat team super cops loving the fake war on drugs. without these fake wars there'd be jobless. we're not just talking jobs here.. we're talking billions of dollars.. and careers.

It's a loss for pretty much everybody else though

 

[Kritic]

It's a loss for pretty much everybody else though

cacs don't give a sh1t about muslims and blacks. fake war on terror and drugs are just new ways to throw ppl back in the stone age.



marijuana legal in a colorado.