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Pool gonna need a comeback like in the 2005 CL final
That's surprising. I thought Barcelona fans were more loyal to their players. It's Real Madrid who have a long history of booing their own players, I think they even booed Raul a few times
Yeah, was always wondering how Dortmund went from UCL finalists to Europa League bottlers so damn fast, Klopp left with the quicknessYou're a toxic POS that throws his toys out when you don't get your own way. You don't work with the club, you make everyone feel uncomfortable, that it is everyone's fault but your own, when things don't go well. If you actually developed players properly, instead of discarding them when they phuck up, maybe just maybe, the people who run the clubs, may give you a longer leash. Instead of acting like a coli poster with your hot takes.
Klopp been given the time, because he is a builder and his style takes a while to implement and needs the right pieces. Which will come crashing down at some point because of the intensity required, can only last for maybe a couple of seasons, before burn out unless you rotate out the players regularly, which he doesn't really do. But that's a conversation for another time.
Mourinho still a good coach tho
Yeah, was always wondering how Dortmund went from UCL finalists to Europa League bottlers so damn fast, Klopp left with the quickness
It's just that the same United fans like me who were miserable during the Mou's reign now are looking at the past 3 years fondly because Ole was only able to get somehting out of these clowns for 3 months before they broke down....hell, some of them doubted the Moyes sacking after LVG lost his first game against Swansea
You're a toxic POS that throws his toys out when you don't get your own way. You don't work with the club, you make everyone feel uncomfortable, that it is everyone's fault but your own, when things don't go well. If you actually developed players properly, instead of discarding them when they phuck up, maybe just maybe, the people who run the clubs, may give you a longer leash. Instead of acting like a coli poster with your hot takes.
Klopp been given the time, because he is a builder and his style takes a while to implement and needs the right pieces. Which will come crashing down at some point because of the intensity required, can only last for maybe a couple of seasons, before burn out unless you rotate out the players regularly, which he doesn't really do. But that's a conversation for another time. While everyone knows you're out of the door half way thru season 3. That's why Pep, Klopp and others are given more freedom, because people expect them to see out here contracts, you cannot even see out a season past year 2.
Mourinho still a good coach tho
Mourinho has always resented being dictated to by a suit, he's an old school manager who wants complete control over transfers like Ferguson had and Wenger had until the stadium move, and Guardiola has today. He fell out with Chelsea because the director of football went and bought Shevchenko and forced his selection in the team. He hated how Perez interfered with the team and transfers at Real Madrid. And he hated Woodward's role at United.
So Mourinho is consistent about wanting one thing, complete backing from the club on transfers and no interference from the suits. And he was very successful at Chelsea and Real Madrid despite not getting what he wanted. But obviously he doesn't want to get involved in that situation again in his career
Forgot Chelsea brought ShevchenkoMourinho is in the wrong business then, because he has never had control over transfers, this whole managers do the transfers is a British thing. Which is an outdated concept that should of been bushed, a long time ago. But because Fergie and Wenger did it, he felt he should have it. But even they got undermined by the suits plenty of times. But with Wenger and Fergie they were also planning for tomorrow, Mourinho only plans for today, you cannot give someone with that outlook, freedom to spend money. Mourinho would of bought old players with no value. Look at Matic . Mourinho has been given players that he wants at the start, at all his clubs, but he falls in and out of love with them too much or picks fights with senior players with tenure.
The director of football didn't buy Sheva that was on Roman.
Lol how pathetic.
Mourinho is in the wrong business then, because he has never has and never will have control over transfers. The game at the elite level, needs a coach to coach and not worried about monetary matters. This whole managers do the transfers is a British thing, which is an outdated concept that should of been bushed, a long time ago. But because Fergie and Wenger did it, he felt he should have it. But even they got undermined by the suits plenty of times. But with Wenger and Fergie they were also planning for tomorrow, Mourinho only plans for today, you cannot give someone with that outlook, freedom to spend stupid money. Mourinho would of bought old players with no value. Look at Matic . Or all of Mendes players, good, bad or indifferent. Mourinho has been given players that he wants at the start, at all his clubs, but he falls in and out of love with them too much or picks fights with senior players with tenure, barring Inter.
The director of football didn't buy Sheva that was on Roman.
Barring D Diddy, that Chelsea squad was Ranieri's, Roman's and Peter Kenyon's
It's fair enough to say football doesn't work like that anymore but what's wrong if someone goes on record saying what working conditions they want to have at their next job? Football doesn't have to accommodate for Mourinho, he only wants the structure of his next employer to match his expectations.
And it's also fair enough to bring up transfers of his that didn't work out, but loads of managers and even technical directors have made terrible moves: Ferguson with Kleberson, Veron, Forlan, and alienating guys like Beckham and Stam; Guardiola paying a fortune AND giving up Eto'o for Ibrahimovic (arguably the WOAT transfer), and spending 25 mill on the rubbish Ukranian defender with a name I can't spell (Chyrgynski or something); Abramovich/Chelsea suits buying Shevchenko and Torres; Real Madrid buying Kaka and selling Robben and Sneijder for peanuts. The list goes on. Nobody is 100% successful with transfers and even the best only get it right about half the time. There's no denying Mourinho signed some garbage but that doesn't convince me that he shouldn't direct a club's transfer policy, because everyone fukks up with transfers. They're always a gamble.
Drogba wasn't the only one. The Portuguese players were all him too, Carvalho and Ferreira. Essien and Ashley Cole as well. Take out Cech, Terry, Makelele, Lampard and Joe Cole because they were signed before he got the job, and that's 5 out of the remaining 6 places in Chelsea's strongest line up throughout the whole 2004-12 era who he personally wanted at the club and personally pushed through their transfers.