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Moyes, who missed out on several targets during the transfer window, said he was "shocked" by the 4-1 thrashing against Manchester City on Sunday, and indicated for the first time that the team he inherited from Ferguson had obvious deficiencies. The former Everton manager has previously talked about a side who are capable of winning the Premier League and Champions League, but now appears to have his own doubts about their quality. "I think a lot of people thought Manchester United [winning the title] last season, that it was probably the form of the other teams that was poor," he said.

He's just realising how shyt the team Fergie left him is
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moyes needs to fukk off tbh

what kind of p*ssy talk is this, why dont u drop rio, young and valencia and play evans nani and kagawa you c*nt

this guy is making us a laughing stock with his bullshyt
 

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Bu-bu-but we won the league last season by 11pts
Yeah team that won league by 11 points is trash. Everything from last year was based on poor form of other teams. Man City who struggles against Stoke and lost to Cardiff are in great form. Chelsea which lost two in a row and doesn't know which style to play are also in a great form. Add Liverpool to the list of great form teams as well, got those 1-0 wins and scrapped by Villa.

But this years United with healthy Vidic, non-flabby Rooney, in form Evra and additional midfielder is trash. It has nothing to do with Moyes' tactics and team selection. Playing Giggs two games in a row (Chelsea/Pool) and then all of a sudden throwing him into bushes has nothing to do with it. Not going for the win at Old Trafford against out of form Chelsea has nothing to do with it. Going out with 4-4-2 against City (hoping for another draw like against Chelsea) has nothing to do with it. Going down 3-0 and beinv ripped apart by your city rivals and leaving Nani, Kagawa and Chicharito (attacking players) on the bench has nothing to do with it. Not having an explanation or any clue why the team got smacked by City after the match (only coming up with excuse that team that won the league by 11 points is not that good 3 days later) has nothing to do with it. Starting players that are not good enough/not in-form constantly until point of embarrassment (Giggs, Cleverley, Young) until it's too late and then benching them, that has nothing to do with it. Never giving young players a chance or being fluid in tactics and decisions (Fabio at fullback with Nani infront, Valencia at fullback with Nani/Zaha upfront, Kagawa in a big match instead of EPL experienced English Ashley Young) has nothing to do with it.
 

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Yeah team that won league by 11 points is trash. Everything from last year was based on poor form of other teams. Man City who struggles against Stoke and lost to Cardiff are in great form. Chelsea which lost two in a row and doesn't know which style to play are also in a great form. Add Liverpool to the list of great form teams as well, got those 1-0 wins and scrapped by Villa.

But this years United with healthy Vidic, non-flabby Rooney, in form Evra and additional midfielder is trash. It has nothing to do with Moyes' tactics and team selection. Playing Giggs two games in a row (Chelsea/Pool) and then all of a sudden throwing him into bushes has nothing to do with it. Not going for the win at Old Trafford against out of form Chelsea has nothing to do with it. Going out with 4-4-2 against City (hoping for another draw like against Chelsea) has nothing to do with it. Going down 3-0 and beinv ripped apart by your city rivals and leaving Nani, Kagawa and Chicharito (attacking players) on the bench has nothing to do with it. Not having an explanation or any clue why the team got smacked by City after the match (only coming up with excuse that team that won the league by 11 points is not that good 3 days later) has nothing to do with it. Starting players that are not good enough/not in-form constantly until point of embarrassment (Giggs, Cleverley, Young) until it's too late and then benching them, that has nothing to do with it. Never giving young players a chance or being fluid in tactics and decisions (Fabio at fullback with Nani infront, Valencia at fullback with Nani/Zaha upfront, Kagawa in a big match instead of EPL experienced English Ashley Young) has nothing to do with it.

No Fergie, no more Fear Factor.

We know United struggle at the start of the season, that's nothing new, but being totally outclassed in the local derby with only one player putting up a fight is :scusthov: Don't care how you want to try and spin and put the blame on, those player out there were experienced enough in derby games to do something.
 

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Fergie was worth a lot of points for United from a coaching factor and just the mentality of that team,if you add RVP to the mix you had a team that lost out on GD after they threw away a lead with an inform striker.I don't think many managers could have achieved what he did especially with that team. I see Man u fans talking about their potential first 11 with Nani and Kagawa on the flanks or Kagawa at the number 10 ignoring how they haven't had a long run of games with those players in their side. Moyes had Pienaar playing on the left wing cutting in but he seems to like playing it safe by choosing a team Ferguson himself would have put out the only difference being the difference in the coaching of the team.
 

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Fergie was worth a lot of points for United from a coaching factor and just the mentality of that team,if you add RVP to the mix you had a team that lost out on GD after they threw away a lead with an inform striker.I don't think many managers could have achieved what he did especially with that team. I see Man u fans talking about their potential first 11 with Nani and Kagawa on the flanks or Kagawa at the number 10 ignoring how they haven't had a long run of games with those players in their side. Moyes had Pienaar playing on the left wing cutting in but he seems to like playing it safe by choosing a team Ferguson himself would have put out the only difference being the difference in the coaching of the team.
RVP wasn't in the team that lost the title to City. And that team's biggest problem wasn't lack of quality, it was mostly the injuries. And the whole "i dont know how many managers who could have..." schtick is bullshyt. City had way more (supposed)"quality" and they barely won the title.
 

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RVP wasn't in the team that lost the title to City. And that team's biggest problem wasn't lack of quality, it was mostly the injuries. And the whole "i dont know how many managers who could have..." schtick is bullshyt. City had way more (supposed)"quality" and they barely won the title.
I meant adding Van Persie to a team that only lost on goal difference with his form gave an extra dimension to Man United. They were in pole position and had some bad results at the end but overall had performed well in the league up to that point. There aren't many managers out there who could have won with the last United side Ferguson had, his wingers dropped in form over the past seasons and had only Carrick as the regular midfielder.
 
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