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[ciubaca]

It's never Messis fault

You don't get the best out of other egos by calling them shyt or ignoring them on the pitch. Especially new players to the club culture and style of play. What about Suarez not scoring an away goal in the CL for years and years. But I guess that's different because he's Messi's mate.

what suarez did for barca... the amount of chances he made for messi and neymar with his false runsthe gaps he created just by getting the Cb to chase after him he was not just a goal scorer ...one of the best #9 ever

Maybe messi did do grizzou dirty ..i mean he still goes 110 % on the pitch. But come on.. ousman and coutinho just dont care.



at you comparing what suarez achieved at barca to these scrubs that messi had to deal with these last few seasond....im surprised he didnt leave sooner.


He probably was lazy and didnt want to change cities

 

[SCORCH]

#30 . What's the reason?

I dream I move, I dream I groove
Like Steph
If I could be like Steph [/Messi]

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

what suarez did for barca... the amount of chances he made for messi and neymar with his false runsthe gaps he created just by getting the Cb to chase after him he was not just a goal scorer ...one of the best #9 ever

Maybe messi did do grizzou dirty ..i mean he still goes 110 % on the pitch. But come on.. ousman and coutinho just dont care.

You can try and shine up the turd that is Suarez away CL record as much as you like but the fact still remains he hasn't scored a goal away from home since Sept 2015. If Benz Lewa C dot did that you'll never hear the end of it. But because it's Barca and Messi's allowances are made.

Dembele is a yout. He don't know any better. He went from making his senior debut to 100m + player in 18 months. And moved countries twice. He needed to be taken under the wing not left to his own devices. Messi had the same injury problems as Dembele did bad diet and lifestyle habits. And what did Dembele get a load of shyt from people treating him he was 29-30 when he was 19-20 just because they paid a lot of money for him.

Coutinho was made to feel unwelcome pretty much from the start. Also because he wasn't Neymar or Iniesta but was sold to the fans as their replacement. And his confidence was shot and never returned in a Barca shirt.

 

[ciubaca]

You can try and shine up the turd that is Suarez away CL record as much as you like but the fact still remains he hasn't scored a goal away from home since Sept 2015. If Benz Lewa C dot did that you'll never hear the end of it. But because it's Barca and Messi's allowances are made.

Dembele is a yout. He don't know any better. He went from making his senior debut to 100m + player in 18 months. And moved countries twice. He needed to be taken under the wing not left to his own devices. Messi had the same injury problems as Dembele did bad diet and lifestyle habits. And what did Dembele get a load of shyt from people treating him he was 29-30 when he was 19-20 just because they paid a lot of money for him.

Coutinho was made to feel unwelcome pretty much from the start. Also because he wasn't Neymar or Iniesta but was sold to the fans as their replacement. And his confidence was shot and never returned

A yout mbappe and haaland are younger than him. And look at them




Yes ....bc messi could make ousmane train properly, he could make him get a good nights sleep and stop playing video games until the small hours of the night
Ousmane is Balotelli status. No one can help him. Hes just there for a check.


Suarez is shyt in ucl away games but these new signings are shyt everywhere ...la liga ...copa del rey ucl ...home and away. Messi is not a fukking manager.

 

[African_brehda]

ignoring them on the pitch

the Paulinho special
His first few games were hard to watch.

 

[Black Nate Grey]

A yout mbappe and haaland are younger than him. And look at them




Yes ....bc messi could make ousmane train properly, he could make him get a good nights sleep and stop playing video games until the small hours of the night
Ousmane is Balotelli status. No one can help him. Hes just there for a check.


Suarez is shyt in ucl away games but these new signings are shyt everywhere ...la liga ...copa del rey ucl ...home and away. Messi is not a fukking manager.

I disagree on one point.
Dembele is more talented, naturally, than Mbappe and Haaland. It's just his mentality is fukking warped, he isn't serious about football at all. Barca was the wrong move, he was a beast at BvB. He needed someone like Zidane to discipline him.
You're right about everything else.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

A yout mbappe and haaland are younger than him. And look at them




Yes ....bc messi could make ousmane train properly, he could make him get a good nights sleep and stop playing video games until the small hours of the night
Ousmane is Balotelli status. No one can help him. Hes just there for a check.


Suarez is shyt in ucl away games but these new signings are shyt everywhere ...la liga ...copa del rey ucl ...home and away. Messi is not a fukking manager.

When Dembele went to Barca he was a yout doing what youts his age do. It all depends who and how you delivered the message to a person. If the likes of Juan Sergio or Ignacio keep on telling Dembele he has to do this and that and don't do this and don't do that. He's young he isn't really going to take any notice. But if it's someone who he respects and admires you have more chance of him taking the advice. It's really no different to not listening to your parents because they're nagging you but if your mates tell you same thing and you listen and take it on board. Also there is a time limit on telling someone something that has been readily repeated to them. Even if Messi did end up talking to him after everyone else complained about it. It would of lost its impact because it was too late and all he's doing is repeating other people's words.

As for Mbrappe and Haaland they've been surrounded by professional athletes their whole lives. Mbrappe father coached many youths that went on to become professional footballers and in other sports too. His mother was a professional handball player in France. Haaland as we know his father was a footballer. Those 2 have been groomed and moulded from young. You can see why they are more mature than your average young superstar footballer. Imagine if Dembele had that kind of background to fall back on to for advice. Instead of just having a regular parents.

And let's not forget Mbrappe has huge ego himself. He was taking corners and free kicks in the Euros not for the betterment of the team but because he wants to get his numbers up.

 

[ciubaca]

I disagree on one point.
Dembele is more talented, naturally, than Mbappe and Haaland. It's just his mentality is fukking warped, he isn't serious about football at all. Barca was the wrong move, he was a beast at BvB. He needed someone like Zidane to discipline him.
You're right about everything else.

thats my point... he has speed, he can shoot with both his feet and he has great technique. On paper he is
sure, the injuries didnt help, but...he just doesnt have that winner mentality . How is that messi's fault?

I rly want him to leave barca and maybe join loverpool... or arsenal to see if he can thrive under a great manager.

 

[ciubaca]

If the likes of Juan Sergio or Ignacio keep on telling Dembele he has to do this and that and don't do this and don't do that. He's young he isn't really going to take any notice. But if it's someone who he respects and admires you have more chance of him taking the advice. It's

I doubt messi didnt help ousmanethey did grizzou dirty but ousmane had every oportunity at barca and he blew it...he blew it bc of himself not because messi wouldnt guide him.

If he rly had a winner mentality he would realise that things are going nowhere here and he would have left barca and try to make his mark somewhere else ...but he is happier just hangin on and collecting a huge check.

 

[Montez]

Anyone else think the lack of Mbappe is weird?

He’s been weirdly quiet, he’s definitely off. Us and United prolly finding his move to Madrid.

So happy for Messi. He genuinely looks happy to be in Paris. He needed that change.

 

[SCORCH]

He’s been weirdly quiet, he’s definitely off. Us and United prolly finding his move to Madrid.

So happy for Messi. He genuinely looks happy to be in Paris. He needed that change.

I don't get this Ramsdale signing and especially at that price. Is Leno really that bad?

Why wouldn't Arteta use that money for another position?

 

[mastermind]

I don't get this Ramsdale signing and especially at that price. Is Leno really that bad?

Why wouldn't Arteta use that money for another position?

Arsenal are preparing for a relegation battle this season and we need experienced players.

 

[SCORCH]

Arsenal are preparing for a relegation battle this season and we need experienced players.

Its madness. Buying him for more than they sold Martinez

 

[African_brehda]

Dembele is more talented, naturally, than Mbappe and Haaland.

thats my point... he has speed, he can shoot with both his feet and he has great technique. On paper he is

where do y’all get that Dembele is more talented shyt from? Football talent is not only about flair and skill move ability. Having a brain for this football shyt is a talent on its own

I also used to argue about Dembele being better, till I accepted maybe he’s just Martial status. He’s just not who we want him to be.

 

[mastermind]

Its madness. Buying him for more than they sold Martinez

They don’t know what they are doing. It’s comical but at this point I don’t care. Our kits are fire this year.