Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - RIP Diogo Jota

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To the gallows, all of them!



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Its simple really, Football (like Basketball) is a sport where its easy to see talent even for the casual fan. But what most people don't get about soccer here in the states is that it really is one of the most team and strategy based sports there is. You can have all the game plan in the world in baseball but a grand slam throws all that shyt out the window.

What pisses me off about teams like Arsenal and the sort is the fact that they feel the need to commit to some sort of identity. That's why Spain, Italy, Brazil and the old guard (besides Germany and Holland) all got thrashed in the WC. That "team identity" bullshyt. Do what you have to do to win. That's why Germany dominated. When you looked they played Bastian as the holding mid but brought him up in attack when guys tried to park the bus. And when teams just KNEW that Kroos, Ozil, Klose and Muller would be the threats. Low brought in and pressed forward Schurrle and Gotze. He was flexible.

Guardiola knows how to get the most out of his system and players but Morinho is by far the most flexible manager in club football. Even more so than Costa, but when he got Fabregas I KNEW Chelsea were gonna be THE team to beat. Because more so than Lampard he now has a Field General who is gonna marshal the attack and think to distribute first. So many options. :wow:
 

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Its simple really, Football (like Basketball) is a sport where its easy to see talent even for the casual fan. But what most people don't get about soccer here in the states is that it really is one of the most team and strategy based sports there is. You can have all the game plan in the world in baseball but a grand slam throws all that shyt out the window.

What pisses me off about teams like Arsenal and the sort is the fact that they feel the need to commit to some sort of identity. That's why Spain, Italy, Brazil and the old guard (besides Germany and Holland) all got thrashed in the WC. That "team identity" bullshyt. Do what you have to do to win. That's why Germany dominated. When you looked they played Bastian as the holding mid but brought him up in attack when guys tried to park the bus. And when teams just KNEW that Kroos, Ozil, Klose and Muller would be the threats. Low brought in and pressed forward Schurrle and Gotze. He was flexible.

Guardiola knows how to get the most out of his system and players but Morinho is by far the most flexible manager in club football. Even more so than Costa, but when he got Fabregas I KNEW Chelsea were gonna be THE team to beat. Because more so than Lampard he now has a Field General who is gonna marshal the attack and think to distribute first. So many options. :wow:

Funny. You rail against casual fans while exposing yourself and completely embodying the mind-set of the novitiate US soccer watcher :ohhh:
 

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Funny. You rail against casual fans while exposing yourself and completely embodying the mind-set of the novitiate US soccer watcher :ohhh:

How so? I don't rail against casual anything because the vast majority of people are casuals bro. I can say with HONESTY that I really started following World football 2 WCs ago. But unlike a casual I can watch it without the deep longing for "action" that most of us Americans need. A 1-0 match can be just as entertaining to me as a 8-7 one.

Team ethos is important, but not at the cost of losing the season. That's how you have some teams (especially in the EPL) with cultures of being lovable losers. The False 9 and tiki-taka was damn near flawless for Spain for the better part of the entire decade BUT when other clubs begin to figure it out you might need to make some changes. It takes some clubs DECADES to get back into contention because of this. Its stubborn and it wastes MILLIONS of dollars.
 

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Five minutes had gone when Jose Mourinho went 1-0 up at Stamford Bridge yesterday.

The ball went out of play near the dugouts for an Arsenal throw-in and a ballboy gathered it as Kieran Gibbs and Mesut Ozil converged on him.

Mourinho leapt up on the sideline, motioning to the lad to throw the ball to him instead.

As the Arsenal players gestured to be given the ball, the ballboy looped it over their heads into Mourinho’s arms.

Mourinho pointed to the spot where he thought the Arsenal throw-in should be taken and handed the ball over.

As Arsene Wenger fumed a few yards away, Mourinho beamed at the ballboy and gave him the thumbs up.

Wenger never really got back into the contest after that. In fact, he fell further behind.

Wow, the ballboy was the real MVP all along.:mjcry:

That's the thing Ozil has the creativity and ability to make those passes that others can't.
His creativity and overall ability is overrated tho. He's pretty much the Balotelli of flair players in that he's just not worth the hassle.

Having creativity and ability is one thing, but as we've seen with Mata if you can't function without the ball and/or play more than one role you're going to be surplus to requirements at top clubs.

Also, Its not about "changing the team around" per se. Its about maximizing your chances to win. This is what separates Jose from the Wegners, Guardiolas and del Bosques of the world. The lack of commitment to one ethos, he does what he has to do to win. If that involves changing the shape or playing different guys...he will.
Yeah but what if playing Ozil central and playing 2 forwards instead of one weakens the team overall? What benefits Ozil doesn't necessarily benefit the team.

And Wenger, the Incompetent One, is just winging it; he's playing Ozil in a position that doesn't make the team and/or the player better. The man is is paid 9m a year and he doesn't even care enough to do his job properly.:mjcry:

Its fukking with my money now. I put Fabregas on the bench is FF :mjcry:

Wenger out :manny:

Al least I kinda called the Hazard merkage tho right? :feedme:

You can understand it with top talents like Hazard but to fail to conteract a moderate talent like Fabregas is unacceptable tbh. Wenger bye.

Too bad he didnt punch that breh in the face tho. Faggits sleep on his height.



Ozil is dead to me. If he can get back he can get back but its really these other Arsenal brehs in here thats saving him.

Let us philosophise. Must one fraud in the kitchen mute us to the fraud entering through the patio door? :sas1:





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Three more years of Wenger
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we have a higher wage bill from the 2013/14 season than Chelsea had in May of 2013.

Im sure Costa and Cesc are playing for minimum wage. :mjlol:

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