So out of those 4 points only one maybe two has to do with old fashioned tactics, it simply comes down to Man U having bad players.
Why are we deriding Moyes again? Because he took the Man U job and fielded an 11 that consisted of Man U players that were there before him?
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yaya and fernandinho aren't traditonal CMs, of our wide players only Navas plays as a traditional winger. Pelligrini isn't doing anything ground breaking, but it's alot better than what Moyes is doing.
Mata stuck out wide? Fact is his players call for a different formation, and maybe he has to sit Rooney on the bench. No excuse having Stoke look like a cheap version of Bayern.