Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - Life and Death for South America, Pre-Season for Europe: The Club World Cup

Gilver

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I get that but someone said it before, United are very reactionary.

How much thought has gone into this big decision? I'm 99% sure this "consultancy" role was HIS demand as part of the negotiations and the board just said, "Sure, yeah fukk it, okay. Whatever. When can you start?:ehh: "

The same shyt happened with Ronaldo. Don't get me wrong, he has surpassed my expectations but we initially declined the offer to sign him because he was not part of our plans and then, like muggs suddenly moved the moon and stars to get him when City started sniffing. That was such an irresponsible thing to do, not just because we already had Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Cavani and Sancho (who we chased for 2 years!) but also because we were supposed to get a damn defensive midfielder with that money! and now we're stuck watching one of GOATs playing with mf McFred every week :snoop:

It's being reported Chelsea wanted him and last season as an interim and talks broke down because he wanted something longer term and they weren't prepared to offer it to him. That's what you call leadership. Not the circus we have at United.
You're just clearly desperate to be negative whatever we do.:yeshrug:

The reality is we have no idea how much thought or lack thereof has gone in to this. The idea is that he will be in charge of footballing matters so something like the Ronaldo signing won't be able to happen again, so using that as evidence this is a bad move is just bizarre. He's coming in to fix/avoid the very issues you're complaining about:mjtf:
 

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nikkas really ignorant about Ralf :scust:

Even if you take away the pressing. Rangnick is basically FIFA career mode in human form. Take a lower level club and get them promoted thru the divisions sign unknown cheaper young players and leave the club in a better position with a structure and philosophy.
 

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I get all the talk about Ten Hag, and would be excited if we got him, but people need to slow it down a bit. He's won Dutch leagues and had a run in the CL. Never even properly managed outside of Holland. There's definitely a hipster element in the praise.

Pochettino could win Dutch titles with Ajax let's be honest. He also dragged a stale and stagnating Spurs side to a CL final.

Pochettino on the surface is far more experienced and equipped for the job.(Yeah i know, no trophies blah blah)

It's all about perception, and Poch's star is a little dimmed right now because he's in the PSG circus.

I'd go Mauricio, personally.

I see that. My issue is that I've seen Poch quite closely. So I've seen him do well but also seen his flaws. Ten Hag I haven't seen enough of him close up to say how good he'll be so that means he is more exciting for me. Like I said though, I wouldn't be upset with Poch.
 

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:ufdup: he revolutionized German football.

How is being an innovator an uneventful career. :heh:. You got to be young with this type of nonsense.
29 is young to some people, I guess.
Mourinho and Wenger both revolutionized the English game when they arrived on the scene too. So that's a bit of a mute point to me because I wouldn't take either at United today.

Just answer these simple questions, please

Why has never managed Bayern, Dortmund or any other notable team in Europe?

Why has he never achieved anything close to the success that Klopp or Tuchel have?


NOW THIS HAS ME FEELING BETTER
 

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You're just clearly desperate to be negative whatever we do.:yeshrug:

The reality is we have no idea how much thought or lack thereof has gone in to this. The idea is that he will be in charge of footballing matters so something like the Ronaldo signing won't be able to happen again, so using that as evidence this is a bad move is just bizarre. He's coming in to fix/avoid the very issues you're complaining about:mjtf:
What I find bizzare is, how as United fans we can still be getting swept away by things like this.

Zaha
James Wilson
Januzaj
Mata
LVG
Di Maria
Falcao
Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlin
Depay
Mourinho
Zlatan
Pogba
Mkhitaryan
Sanchez
Lindelof
Matic
Lukaku
Ole
Maguire
Dan James
Telles


All of the above arrived with much fan fare but in the grand scheme of things did little to nothing to change the trajectory of this club over the last 8 years (Not always through fault of their own, especially Pogba and Zlatan).


Let me not derail the hype train though.
Ralf's at the wheel:hubie:
 

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29 is young to some people, I guess.
Mourinho and Wenger both revolutionized the English game when they arrived on the scene too. So that's a bit of a mute point to me because I wouldn't take either at United today.

Just answer these simple questions, please

Why has never managed Bayern, Dortmund or any other notable team in Europe?

Why has he never achieved anything close to the success that Klopp or Tuchel have?


NOW THIS HAS ME FEELING BETTER
Kloppo is a Sacchi disciple not Ralf :hubie:
 

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Our boy Dizee had never heard of Rangnick but is a Lars Kornetka superfan:banderas:
No, I just despise the Ole cabal (Carrick, Mckenna and especially Phelan) that much.

With them still there, NOTHING will change. Might as well have kept Ole and saved on £7.5m
 

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What I find bizzare is, how as United fans we can still be getting swept away by things like this.

Zaha
James Wilson
Januzaj
Mata
LVG
Di Maria
Falcao
Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlin
Depay
Mourinho
Zlatan
Pogba
Mkhitaryan
Sanchez
Lindelof
Matic
Lukaku
Ole
Maguire
Dan James
Telles


All of the above arrived with much fan fare but in the grand scheme of things did little to nothing to change the trajectory of this club over the last 8 years (Not always through fault of their own, especially Pogba and Zlatan).


Let me not derail the hype train though.
Ralf's at the wheel:hubie:
He's coming in to make decisions on transfers and squad composition over the next few years, meaning in theory those mistakes won't happen anymore, what are you not getting about this:dead:

Those sort of fukks ups happened BECAUSE we didn't have a Rangnick figure.:unimpressed:
 
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