Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - The Slotification of Liverpool is nearly complete

[Montez]

Ralf as a DOF would scare me. Would wrap up top 4 for the next 4-5 years.

He moans about all international football, players not getting rest in the summer, international breaks it all. He had a go at FIFA and UEFA the other month. Only way you wanna take offence at that is if you looking to misunderstand it like he said


And you brehs should know me well enough to know my Super Eagles >>>>> everything so it’s not me just sticking up for him cause he manages us. I even said in here when he made the comments and @SCORCH was at the same that he was wrong and tough shyt for him and anybody else who want to complain about it. You can miss me with tryna make out something that wasn’t there

I agree international football is usually in his sights but Klopp x AFCON has been a constant theme for years. AFCON gets played in January we all know that. It's a headache but it's been like that for a while but the constant moaning, shyt annoying now. It wasn't just last Friday. When he makes arguments against schedule congestion, it's always Africa at the tip of his tongue. He said in July 2019. He said it in January 2020.

CONMEBOL is a way bigger headache than this imo and the energy ain't the same. 3 Copa Americas since he's been Liverpool manager.

 

[TheOptimisticCynikal]

Would prefer Ten Hag to Poch personally. but I wont be upset with Poch. I just wouldnt be excited by him.

I can see Ten Hag coming eventually. The days of managers staying for long periods of time is over. Club structure wins trophies I think these days so long as the recurring managers philosophies don't deviate too much from each other. City and Chelsea prove that

 

[Gilver]

Would prefer Ten Hag to Poch personally. but I wont be upset with Poch. I just wouldnt be excited by him.

I get all the talk about Ten Hag, and would be excited if we got him, but people need to slow it down a bit. He's won Dutch leagues and had a run in the CL. Never even properly managed outside of Holland. There's definitely a hipster element in the praise.

Pochettino could win Dutch titles with Ajax let's be honest. He also dragged a stale and stagnating Spurs side to a CL final.

Pochettino on the surface is far more experienced and equipped for the job.(Yeah i know, no trophies blah blah)

It's all about perception, and Poch's star is a little dimmed right now because he's in the PSG circus.

I'd go Mauricio, personally.

 

[TobiOT]

If you get Rangnick, he'll Logan's Run the whole squad but it wont be 30, probably be 27-28 as the cut off age. Anyone who turns like a double decker bus will be gone and anyone who wont run will be done as well.

Maguire getting benched hopefully... Matic probably goes to Roma if Jose isn't sacked.

Pogba will be gone in the summer anyways. Ralf needs to tell Bruno to stay back but I think he'll like him to a certain degree.

Ronaldo.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Rangnick finally got his English dream.

4222 8-10 seconds to get the ball back. United got the quick transition players only 1 of them knows how to press tho

 

[BelieveBeOK]

Bro, you say you've never heard of him then judge the appointment, do some research.

I have no issues with him being interim or whatever but what's with the two year commitment after that?

If you wanna hire an interim, hire an interim. If you wanna hire someone for the long term then hire him for the long term and bring a team with him. Just be deliberate about whatever you do though. Not this half-and-half type shyt that is happening now.

This guy would never have been approached for a consultancy role if things were going well for Ole, so why are we making a long term commitment when we only need him to adress our short term needs?

A lot of people hyped about this guy but his CV just isn't that impressive to me if we're talking about a guy who is gonna be part of the leadership at Manchester United. What have Leipzig actually really achieved?

The fact that Klopp and Tuchel supposedly had success using his methods doesn't move the needle for me either because because he never managed to have that success for himself.

And again, the 3 coaches who failed under Ole (Carrick under Jose too) and were actually in charge or running training and preparing the team tactically will still be at the club also, so how much realistically can be expect to change?

This just smells like another half-assed and rushed decision by United, which if it backfires will look like another call that should never have been made.

We've been here before with LVG, Jose and Ole. Decisions that when made got everybody excited but with the benefit of hindsight were exposed to be the flawed and spontaneous calls that they always were

I wish this guy all the best however I'm not gonna hide the fact that I see a big possibility of this extra 2 year commitment coming back to bite us big time.

 

[TobiOT]

 

[TobiOT]

Wait? What happened to @brehsimilitude?

 

[Gilver]

I have no issues with him being interim or whatever but what's with the two year commitment after that?

If you wanna hire an interim, hire an interim. If you wanna hire someone for the long term then hire him for the long term and bring a team with him. Just be deliberate about whatever you do though. Not this half-and-half type shyt that is happening now.

This guy would never have been approached for a consultancy role if things were going well for Ole, so why are we making a long term commitment when we only need him to adress our short term needs?

A lot of people hyped about this guy but his CV just isn't that impressive to me if we're talking about a guy who is gonna be part of the leadership at Manchester United. What have Leipzig actually really achieved?

The fact that Klopp and Tuchel had success using his methods supposedly don't move the needle for me because my question is, why didn't he manage to achieve the same level of success they did? Just smells like a "when a student becomes the master" type situation to me and obviously, United being United we go for the old master who has long since been shown up by his students. I mean we're getting this guy from Russia for Pete's sake and this interim job will be, by far and away, the biggest role of his LONG ASS, UNEVENTFUL career.

And again, the 3 coaches who failed under Ole (Carrick under Jose too) and were actually in charge or running training and preparing the team tactically will still be at the club also, so how much realistically can be expect to change?

This just smells like another half-assed and rushed decision by United, which if it backfires will look like another obviously bad decsion that should never have been made.

We've been here before with LVG, Jose and Ole. Decisions that when made got everybody excited but with the benefit of hindsight were exposed to be the flawed and spontaneous calls that they were.

I wish this guy all the best however I'm not gonna hide the fact that I see a big possibility of this extra 2 year commitment coming back to bite us big time.

I'm just going to say it again mate, look him up(not just his trophy record on wikipedia)

He's more of a DoF/Sporting Director than he is a manager in recent years. We're bringing him with the idea that he will give the club direction and a vision at the highest levels, both in terms of playing squad and club infrastructure.

It is the most forward thinking move the club has looked to do since Fergie retired. Of course it might not work, but then why not just fold the club if we're not going to try? We clearly want Poch or someone else as manager long term and can't get them right now, this is the next best option and has the added bonus of him moving upstairs in to a role he's perfect for and has long coveted at a big english club.

 

[Piffiztheanswer]

Damn no more ManU fukkery

 

[BelieveBeOK]

I'm just going to say it again mate, look him up(not just his trophy record on wikipedia)

He's more of a DoF/Sporting Director than he is a manager in recent years. We're bringing him with the idea that he will give the club direction and a vision at the highest levels, both in terms of playing squad and club infrastructure.

It is the most forward thinking move the club has looked to do since Fergie retired. Of course it might not work, but then why not just fold the club if we're not going to try? We clearly want Poch or someone else as manager long term and can't get them right now, this is the next best option and has the added bonus of him moving upstairs in to a role he's perfect for and has long coveted at a big english club.

I get that but someone said it before, United are very reactionary.

How much thought has gone into this big decision? I'm 99% sure this "consultancy" role was HIS demand as part of the negotiations and the board just said, "Sure, yeah fukk it, okay. Whatever. When can you start? "

The same shyt happened with Ronaldo. Don't get me wrong, he has surpassed my expectations but we initially declined the offer to sign him because he was not part of our plans and then, like muggs suddenly moved the moon and stars to get him when City started sniffing. That was such an irresponsible thing to do, not just because we already had Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Cavani and Sancho (who we chased for 2 years!) but also because we were supposed to get a damn defensive midfielder with that money! and now we're stuck watching one of GOATs playing with mf McFred every week

It's being reported Chelsea wanted him and last season as an interim and talks broke down because he wanted something longer term and they weren't prepared to offer it to him. That's what you call leadership. Not the circus we have at United.

 

[JDH]

I see where he's coming from since he's losing two of his best players (Salah and Mané) which the other title contenders dont which gives them a pretty big advantage tbh

 

[the next guy]

Ragnick seems like an everydayer with the traning. I hope some of these guys can adapt to traning he does.

Also should have been one year too.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

I have no issues with him being interim or whatever but what's with the two year commitment after that? If you wanna hire an interim, hire an interim. This guy would never have been approached for a consultancy role if things were going well for Ole, so why are we making long term commitments to adress short term needs?


A lot of people hyped about this guy but his CV just isn't that impressive to me if we're talking about a guy who is gonna be part of the leadership at Manchester United. What have Leipzig actually really achieved?

The fact that Klopp and Tuchel had success using his methods supposedly don't move the needle for me because my question is, why didn't he manage to achieve the same level of success they did? Just smells like a "when a student becomes the master" type situation to me and obviously, United being United we go for the old master who has long since been shown up by his students. I mean we're getting this guy from Russia for Pete's sake and this interim job will be, by far and away, the biggest role of his LONG ASS, UNEVENTFUL career.

And again, the 3 coaches who failed under Ole (Carrick under Jose too) and were actually in charge or running training and preparing the team tactically will still be at the club also, so how much realistically can be expect to change?

This just smells like another half-assed and rushed decision by United, which if it backfires will look like another obviously bad decsion that should never have been made.

We've been here before with LVG, Jose and Ole. Decisions that when made got everybody excited and with the benefit of hindsight looked like flawed, spontaneous calls.

I wish this guy all the best however I'm not gonna hide the fact that I see a big possibility of this extra 2 year commitment coming back to bite us big time.

he revolutionized German football.

How is being an innovator an uneventful career. . You got to be young with this type of nonsense.

 

[Gilver]

I get that but someone said it before, United are very reactionary.

How much thought has gone into this big decision? I'm 99% sure this "consultancy" role was HIS demand as part of the negotiations and the board just said, "Sure, yeah fukk it, okay. Whatever. When can you start? "

The same shyt happened with Ronaldo. Don't get me wrong, he has surpassed my expectations but we initially declined the offer to sign him because he was not part of our plans and then, like muggs suddenly moved the moon and stars to get him when City started sniffing. That was such an irresponsible thing to do, not just because we already had Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Cavani and Sancho (who we chased for 2 years!) but also because we were supposed to get a damn defensive midfielder with that money! and now we're stuck watching one of GOATs playing with mf McFred every week

It's being reported Chelsea wanted him and last season as an interim and talks broke down because he wanted something longer term and they weren't prepared to offer it to him. That's what you call leadership. Not the circus we have at United.

You're just clearly desperate to be negative whatever we do.

The reality is we have no idea how much thought or lack thereof has gone in to this. The idea is that he will be in charge of footballing matters so something like the Ronaldo signing won't be able to happen again, so using that as evidence this is a bad move is just bizarre. He's coming in to fix/avoid the very issues you're complaining about