Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - RIP Diogo Jota

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Yayo Toure said:
This is true. But if they can spend 100m on a player, they can do renovations. I think they are trying to hire a DOF now so when that person gets a budget they can sort that out.

But destroying the ground isn't going to get the club sold(it actually makes the investment less attractive) and just creates a further problem. Furthermore selling United is going to be real complicated, you'll need a person worth over 10 billion that is OK pissing away 5 billion just settling the debts, operating costs and losses due to covid. A person like that would rather by Newcaatle, much easier project to take over, even with FFP BS.
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When United did their original renovations in the early 90's to get in line with the Taylor report that was funded by the club floating on the Stock Exchange in 91. The dividends that the Glazers have been taking out could of gone on the renovating the stadium.
 
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Ukbrotha said:
There literally isn't a shred of truth to it because united fans have never been happy with the Glazers. Even when they were winning. This isnt the first anti Glazer protest during their ownership, The Super league brought it all to a head but in response to issues that has been there for well over a decade of their ownership. And yes, this is in the interest of man utd, what else would it be for?
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Fair enough.

I just found it strange how some people were referring to the protest yesterday as 'against the Super League' when we know that really isn't the issue at play there for Man Utd supporters.

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A bunch of people acting for selfish reasons, as long as they act together for their own individual selfish reasons, is very powerful. Your criticism overlooks that.

Imagine if all the fans of all the clubs in England did this. Then we would see the structural change to how fans and clubs partake in football together. We'd see fan ownership of clubs. That's the end game. The glazer out or Kroenke out stuff, it all helps to create a climate where the ultimate end game keeps growing in stature, even if they have totally selfish reasons for doing it, and even if they don't see or care about the end game.

When the Russian people rose up in 1917 they did so for the selfish reasons of wanting to not starve, of wanting vodka to drink and bread to eat, of wanting land and homes they could call their own, and of wanting Russian exit from the First World War. That's all they cared about. But those selfish interests of theirs coalesced into the communist revolution, because the pressure they created made it possible for Lenin and Trotsky to come in and play their end game over the top of the build-up the selfish common Russian had created. This football thing is the same. If we see simultaneous attacks on Glazer, Kroenke, Fenway, Levy and Lewis - we will soon enough see a result where fans have greater ownership over their club's heritage and tradition.
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What does that look like in real terms? I'm not going to call fan ownership a pipe dream but it's not far off considering the money involved in football today.
 
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Kunty McPhuck said:
When United did their original renovations in the early 90's to get in line with the Taylor report that was funded by the club floating on the Stock Exchange in 91. The dividends that the Glazers have been taking out could of gone on the renovating the stadium.
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Dude let's keep it 100, this protest is truly about not a damn thing.

Get "mad" about things that they really don't understand, simply because you're told to.

Like United is somehow gonna go outta business. :unimpressed:
 
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Fan ownership won't work for the Big 6 clubs. Pretty pointless to bring that up for them or for the majority of the PL clubs tbh. Bu-bu-but the Germany 50+1 model? What about those clubs owned by corporations like RB and VW or is that different? That was implemented 23 years ago and the football business has drastically changed since then and even more so in the PL. Long and short the PL is too far gone down the line and with majority of these PL teams in debt in one way or another I don't see how the fans are going to get then out of that tbh. Especially when most of them cannot even feed their own kids.
 
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