Isnt 4th place safe for CL for Serie A ? I thought it was 5th that was going to qualifiers ?If Lazio win their outstanding game, it’ll be 2 points between 2nd and 6th
And we still have to face Juventus and Atalanta away on the final day
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Yippee Ki Yay
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Yeah 4th is safe for the CL, well it is in England now, it used to be a qualifier but they gave 4th place a guaranteed spot a few years ago
5th place goes into the Europa League
I assume its all the same for English,Italy and Spanish leagues
TobiOT
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There definitely is some semblance of truth to it though.
Yesterday was predominantly a LUHG protest and had very little to do with the Super League.
Very important display by the United fans. You could sense the momentum beginning to ebb away, certainly as far as mainstream media is concerned. Now the Superleague and the broader issues of fan ownership over football clubs is back at the front and centre of the conversation. Their efforts have renewed the pressure
Yep, very important display by Man Utd fans for the interest of their club.
Ukbrotha
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There literally isn't a shred of truth to it because united fans have never been happy with the Glazers. Even when they were winning. This isnt the first anti Glazer protest during their ownership, The Super league brought it all to a head but in response to issues that has been there for well over a decade of their ownership. And yes, this is in the interest of man utd, what else would it be for?
A bunch of people acting for selfish reasons, as long as they act together for their own individual selfish reasons, is very powerful. Your criticism overlooks that.
Imagine if all the fans of all the clubs in England did this. Then we would see the structural change to how fans and clubs partake in football together. We'd see fan ownership of clubs. That's the end game. The glazer out or Kroenke out stuff, it all helps to create a climate where the ultimate end game keeps growing in stature, even if they have totally selfish reasons for doing it, and even if they don't see or care about the end game.
When the Russian people rose up in 1917 they did so for the selfish reasons of wanting to not starve, of wanting vodka to drink and bread to eat, of wanting land and homes they could call their own, and of wanting Russian exit from the First World War. That's all they cared about. But those selfish interests of theirs coalesced into the communist revolution, because the pressure they created made it possible for Lenin and Trotsky to come in and play their end game over the top of the build-up the selfish common Russian had created. This football thing is the same. If we see simultaneous attacks on Glazer, Kroenke, Fenway, Levy and Lewis - we will soon enough see a result where fans have greater ownership over their club's heritage and tradition.
TobiOT
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African_brehda
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It ends with 4th. 5 of us are fighting for 3 spots right now
TheOptimisticCynikal
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To those saying brehs just mad cause they not winning
Glazers have never been welcomed. They need to ask Hicks & Gillette how this ends. There is a media campaign for them to sell one of their biggest assets and they literally have no one to blame but themselves
Glazers have never been welcomed. They need to ask Hicks & Gillette how this ends. There is a media campaign for them to sell one of their biggest assets and they literally have no one to blame but themselves
Yes, they protested, by paying for season tickets. And having a jolly ole time, watching their team play wonderful Football.
Oh yes, they waved scarfs
Protesting the owners by going to games and putting money in their pockets.
I've always been aware of the LUHG faction of United support, what happened yesterday was a step beyond that.
Imagine you are a Newcastle fan and you see these guys turn the place upside down. A billion spent, but those greedy b*stards didn't spend another 120m to get Sancho. So your team isn't as successful as it used to be, that's sports.
The Glazers are shytty owners but don't forget that they got ownership because your boy Sir Alex was beefing with the old owners over horse semen. Afterwards Sir Alex and all your legends endorsed these guys.
What's hilarious about all this is Neville and them on TV talking about what is fair. Was it fair when United kept gate receipts and killed revenues for smaller clubs? Was it fair when United and 5 other clubs started up the premier league and figured ways to keep most of the money? Was it fair when they started the Champions league and how they shared that revenue up?
Y'all should just say you want your team to win again and don't care about anything else, this protest isn't about empowering people.
Liverpool fans with the shyts and will protest for anything and they not protesting like that.
Winning and being active in the transfer market helps a lot. Chelsea and City have owners who don’t go to games but they’re active. Fans just want to win.
If Arsenal were winning I don’t think there would be protest. Outside of being clueless in football, I don’t think the Kroenke’s are that bad, they’ve got 3 contenders on their books. They been screwed by Gazidis leaving, then hired 4 idiots. If they hired the right people it could work.
The Glazers are c*nts. Old Trafford looking like a NYCHA building. It’s disgraceful. Heard the training ground is bad too.
Winning and being active in the transfer market helps a lot. Chelsea and City have owners who don’t go to games but they’re active. Fans just want to win.
If Arsenal were winning I don’t think there would be protest. Outside of being clueless in football, I don’t think the Kroenke’s are that bad, they’ve got 3 contenders on their books. They been screwed by Gazidis leaving, then hired 4 idiots. If they hired the right people it could work.
The Glazers are c*nts. Old Trafford looking like a NYCHA building. It’s disgraceful. Heard the training ground is bad too.
This is true. But if they can spend 100m on a player, they can do renovations. I think they are trying to hire a DOF now so when that person gets a budget they can sort that out.
But destroying the ground isn't going to get the club sold(it actually makes the investment less attractive) and just creates a further problem. Furthermore selling United is going to be real complicated, you'll need a person worth over 10 billion that is OK pissing away 5 billion just settling the debts, operating costs and losses due to covid. A person like that would rather by Newcaatle, much easier project to take over, even with FFP BS.
TheOptimisticCynikal
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Protesting the owners by going to games and putting money in their pockets.
I've always been aware of the LUHG faction of United support, what happened yesterday was a step beyond that.
Imagine you are a Newcastle fan and you see these guys turn the place upside down. A billion spent, but those greedy b*stards didn't spend another 120m to get Sancho. So your team isn't as successful as it used to be, that's sports.
The Glazers are shytty owners but don't forget that they got ownership because your boy Sir Alex was beefing with the old owners over horse semen. Afterwards Sir Alex and all your legends endorsed these guys.
What's hilarious about all this is Neville and them on TV talking about what is fair. Was it fair when United kept gate receipts and killed revenues for smaller clubs? Was it fair when United and 5 other clubs started up the premier league and figured ways to keep most of the money? Was it fair when they started the Champions league and how they shared that revenue up?
Y'all should just say you want your team to win again and don't care about anything else, this protest isn't about empowering people.
The money that's been spent over the years has been from profits made by the club. The debt that these leeches put on the club has been paid from the same profits by the club due to success on the pitch. The difference between Glazers and the Sheikh for Manchester City is that they've invested over a billion while these sucks have drained over a billion. They should be commended for spending the clubs own money?
Not gonna argue too much on the Rock of Gibraltar stuff. That always seemed super shady tbh. But what did you want him to do at 70+ years old? Risk tearing down everything he's built over two decades getting into a war with owners that it could be argued he's somewhat responsible for being there? At that point he's just trying to keep a steady ship and hope for the best. Die a hero or live long enough to become the villain type of situation really.