Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - RIP Diogo Jota

[Kunty McPhuck]

He was definitely WC that season... All the talk was where was he gonna go. Chelsea was on that man City shyt and there was crazy hype.

What are you defining as coming into his own? Are you just looking at stats? That my be where we differ coz I'm just remembering the temperature back then, how influential he was and how he was one of the most feared strikers in the prem. You didn't see big lads with the tekkers he had back then, was mentallllll.

Again, fukk Chelsea.

His first 2 seasons at Chelsea he was a inconsistent finisher and he was flopping too much on contact. Once Sheva signed which was D Daddy's 3rd season the competitive monster really came out and doubled his Chelsea career total in 1 season.

His first 2 seasons it was on his day type player, like Andy Carroll. But wasn't the killer he grew into yet.

 

[NSSVO]

Bartomeu pedirá a Messi rebajarse el sueldo en su primer cara a cara tras quedarse un año más en el Barça

[Deportes Cuatro] Bartomeu will ask Messi to lower his salary in his first face to face after staying one more year at Barça

This fukking guy man

 

[TobiOT]

Same guy that threw his season ticket on the floor in the same video.

 

[WaveGang]

I was football crazy around this time, and was in my final years of school so i literally ate, slept and breathed football. My opinion is purely based on what was happening at the time, not taking in to account what drogba did in the following seasons. Which you guys clearly are doing, and I can respect that.

His first 2 seasons at Chelsea he was a inconsistent finisher and he was flopping too much on contact.

Drogba wasn't inconsistent at all. Looking back at the stats, it paints that narrative but in reality he was the most feared striker in the prem (not including henry who was at god level).

The diving (flopping) thing was some racial shyt in the media to discredit Drogba. I remember that shyt CLEARLYYYYYY. Back when white people were running with the 'foreigners dive' shyt. Personally I would not even include that in this discussion.

Once Sheva signed which was D Daddy's 3rd season the competitive monster really came out and doubled his Chelsea career total in 1 season.

Like I said earlier, you guys are doing some retrospective takes on this, looking at the stats etc which clearly paint this picture. However if you was around at the time and lived through it, no way this narrative can run.

 

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United aren't signing shyt Greenwood better get ready

 

[WaveGang]

That is what i just said, nikkas i know drogba was a breh and we want him to have his respect,which he has from pretty much any football fan living, but stop revising history.

When folks retire or die folks overestimate how good they were

Na playa, I don't necessarily think you are wrong in what you're saying. Stats show he scored more goals after his first couple seasons and I aint tryna argue that.

But to make out like he didnt hit the ground running because of his stats were better the following seasons is just absurd. and I say that as someone who remembers vividly when he joined Chelsea and the impact he had on the prem. He was the best striker in the prem outside of Henry when he joined.

Don't do this please.

 

[TobiOT]

 

[bigdaddy88]

Na playa, I don't necessarily think you are wrong in what you're saying. Stats show he scored more goals after his first couple seasons and I aint tryna argue that.

But to make out like he didnt hit the ground running because of his stats were better the following seasons is just absurd. and I say that as someone who remembers vividly when he joined Chelsea and the impact he had on the prem. He was the best striker in the prem outside of Henry when he joined.

Don't do this please.

When he joined chelsea he wasnt even better than ruud van nistelrooy, he wasnt even in the same stratosphere at that time

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

I was football crazy around this time, and was in my final years of school so i literally ate, slept and breathed football. My opinion is purely based on what was happening at the time, not taking in to account what drogba did in the following seasons. Which you guys clearly are doing, and I can respect that.


Drogba wasn't inconsistent at all. Looking back at the stats, it paints that narrative but in reality he was the most feared striker in the prem (not including henry who was at god level).

The diving (flopping) thing was some racial shyt in the media to discredit Drogba. I remember that shyt CLEARLYYYYYY. Back when white people were running with the 'foreigners dive' shyt. Personally I would not even include that in this discussion.



Like I said earlier, you guys are doing some retrospective takes on this, looking at the stats etc which clearly paint this picture. However if you was around at the time and lived through it, no way this narrative can run.

like you was the only person in to their football back then. Cmon breh you better than that to use this as an argument.

D Diddy was a terrible flopper, what he got away with in France didn't wash in England, like most foreign players find out and they become more crafty. And that's exactly what Drogba become more crafty with his flopping. Prime example is the CL 2012 first leg semi final. When he played strong Barca defence couldn't handle him, when he was on his own no support he flopped to win freekicks. C dot got shyt for flopping, Bale got shyt for flopping Andy Johnson got shyt for flopping and winning so many pens at Palace. If you flop you get shyt in England, why you think Jurgen Klansmann did the dive celebration because people were calling him a diver before he even played a game for Spurs.

D Diddy finishing was inconsistent in his first 2 seasons at Chelsea, any decent Chelsea fan will tell you that. When he had too much time to think he would fluff the chance. Once he allowed himself to be more instinctive he became better, which was in his 3rd season. Thus the double in goals tally.

 

[WaveGang]

When he joined chelsea he wasnt even better than ruud van nistelrooy, he wasnt even in the same stratosphere at that time

2004 Van Nistelrooy, his legs were GONE. Pretty sure Utd sold him that season aswell because of it.

Like I said, I don't hold no bias in this discussion I just know those seasons better than any other PL season.

 

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2004 Van Nistelrooy, his legs were GONE. Pretty sure Utd sold him that season aswell because of it.

Like I said, I don't hold no bias in this discussion I just know those seasons better than any other PL season.

Van Nistelrooy didn’t leave till 06 I believe.

 

[WaveGang]

like you was the only person in to their football back then. Cmon breh you better than that to use this as an argument.

D Diddy was a terrible flopper, what he got away with in France didn't wash in England, like most foreign players find out and they become more crafty. And that's exactly what Drogba become more crafty with his flopping. Prime example is the CL 2012 first leg semi final. When he played strong Barca defence couldn't handle him, when he was on his own no support he flopped to win freekicks. C dot got shyt for flopping, Bale got shyt for flopping Andy Johnson got shyt for flopping and winning so many pens at Palace. If you flop you get shyt in England, why you think Jurgen Klansmann did the dive celebration because people were calling him a diver before he even played a game for Spurs.

D Diddy finishing was inconsistent in his first 2 seasons at Chelsea, any decent Chelsea fan will tell you that. When he had too much time to think he would fluff the chance. Once he allowed himself to be more instinctive he became better, which was in his 3rd season. Thus the double in goals tally.

Like I said the whole diving debate was the typical white english 'these foreigners are not built like us' false superiority shyt, I remember that clearly and taking no notice of it for said reasons. The Euros where C dot winked at Rooney after diving sent the media into overdrive with diving.

In regards to your last paragraph, would you agree with what I'm saying that he was one of the top 3 strikers in the prem 04/05 05/06?? And that he had a major impact in the prem straight out the gate? Because even though the stats are not there, my point is he was hot as fukk at the time without a doubt one of the most feared.

 

[Trajan]

He was definitely WC that season... All the talk was where was he gonna go. Chelsea was on that man City shyt and there was crazy hype.

What are you defining as coming into his own? Are you just looking at stats? That my be where we differ coz I'm just remembering the temperature back then, how influential he was and how he was one of the most feared strikers in the prem. You didn't see big lads with the tekkers he had back then, was mentallllll.

Again, fukk Chelsea.

Yh he was highly anticipated. I even remember one of the headlines "Drog deal" lol

 

[WaveGang]

Van Nistelrooy didn’t leave till 06 I believe.

Yeah I checked you're right.

03/04 RVN was prime RVN

04/05, 05/06 RVN wasn't top draw in my memory at all. Not sure if you agree but thats how I remember it.

 

[bigdaddy88]

2004 Van Nistelrooy, his legs were GONE. Pretty sure Utd sold him that season aswell because of it.

Like I said, I don't hold no bias in this discussion I just know those seasons better than any other PL season.

if u say so

If u consider drogba in his first 2 seasons WC then ur standards are lowwwwww

If wanna say the talent was clearly there and was inconsistent as hell, we agree but WC is been used very loosely, like the word classic