Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - The Scriptures Prophesied the Messiah Plays 3-4-3

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Emery gets criticized for his lack luster career prior to being handed the Arsenal gig, but what has Arteta accomplished to warrant y'all confidence in him to turn your the ship around?

Even worse, y'all bytch about playing out the back week in and week out, and if anything, he's going to come in with that same possession based philosophy he's grown accustomed to but no players to match.

shyt looking like another Ole situation. Y'all better go out and get a seasoned manager :ufdup:

Hiring a club legend/former liked player, gives a board some breathing room and hope that the goodwill that person brings rubs off onto the players, as they already have the support of the fans.

The game has evolved so much over the last decade, that at the top sides, just being pragmatic, is no longer good enough for coaches to set their sides up. You have to play some sort of entertaining football. Fans have made it know Big Scam, Big Tone Pulis, Gollum Moyes and others that their brand of football isn't good enough, if they aren't in a relegation dogfight. Let's keep it reality, no one wants to see Steve Bruce and Pardew keep on getting PL jobs, because everyone knows how they play and how the job is going to end up, it's the same story arc, from job to job. Board members play to the gallery, so they can keep the money coming in.

With the success of Pep and Zidane, who started running B teams and then getting the main jobs at their respective clubs, it's basically told everyone else, you don't need an already established coach to be successful. If Real and Barca can do it, why dont we do it too. What's the NFL tag again? It's a Copycat league. Which all sports are tbh, everyone is trying to gain an advantage and want to know who is being successful in the moment how can we replicate that ourselves? So when you have the likes of a Lampard doing well, Pirouette P at Fulham, who play modern attacking football, other chairmen and fans notice this and want that too.

The ideal scenario for Football fans would be a team coached by a former player and a starting XI/squad comprised of players who have came thru the academy. People who understand the fabric of the club and have a sense of love for the club, that just cannot be bought with money. Also at the top level if you have a homegrown coach from your club, he is less likely to leave his home when others come calling. This happens with all team sports, btw not just football.

The reason why I guess Arsenal fans want Arteta, is because he will bring in fresh ideas to a club that hasn't had any in over 2 decades. Well probably a decade, as Wenger did go more for smallball, so I guess that is a new idea.
 
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Watching that Barcelona documentary, Coutinho looked like he wanted to dry heave at halftime.

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Hiring a club legend/former liked player, gives a board some breathing room and hope that the goodwill that person brings rubs off onto the players, as they already have the support of the fans.

The game has evolved so much over the last decade, that at the top sides, just being pragmatic, is no longer good enough for coaches to set their sides up. You have to play some sort of entertaining football. Fans have made it know Big Scam, Big Tone Pulis, Gollum Moyes and others that their brand of football isn't good enough, if they aren't in a relegation dogfight. Let's keep it reality, no one wants to see Steve Bruce and Pardew keep on getting PL jobs, because everyone knows how they play and how the job is going to end up, it's the same story arc, from job to job. Board members play to the gallery, so they can keep the money coming in.

With the success of Pep and Zidane, who started running B teams and then getting the main jobs at their respective clubs, it's basically told everyone else, you don't need an already established coach to be successful. If Real and Barca can do it, why dont we do it too. What's the NFL tag again? It's a Copycat league. Which all sports are tbh, everyone is trying to gain an advantage and want to know who is being successful in the moment how can we replicate that ourselves? So when you have the likes of a Lampard doing well, Pirouette P at Fulham, who play modern attacking football, other chairmen and fans notice this and want that too.

The ideal scenario for Football fans would be a team coached by a former player and a starting XI/squad comprised of players who have came thru the academy. People who understand the fabric of the club and have a sense of love for the club, that just cannot be bought with money. Also at the top level if you have a homegrown coach from your club, he is less likely to leave his home when others come calling. This happens with all team sports, btw not just football.

The reason why I guess Arsenal fans want Arteta, is because he will bring in fresh ideas to a club that hasn't had any in over 2 decades. Well probably a decade, as Wenger did go more for smallball, so I guess that is a new idea.
But he isn't coming through the Arsenal B team. He's coming up from a City club whose philosophy couldn't be anymore different.

Pep and Zidane had an arsenal of talent, plus clubs willing to spend, and back their transfer needs. Lampard walked into a situation where the expectations were pretty low, and plenty of hungry, young talent at his disposal.

I understand the idea they're going for, I just see it as akin to the disaster at United with Ole :yeshrug:
 

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But he isn't coming through the Arsenal B team. He's coming up from a City club whose philosophy couldn't be anymore different.

Pep and Zidane had an arsenal of talent, plus clubs willing to spend, and back their transfer needs. Lampard walked into a situation where the expectations were pretty low, and plenty of hungry, young talent at his disposal.

I understand the idea they're going for, I just see it as akin to the disaster at United with Ole :yeshrug:

Considering the player Arteta was, playing under Wenger and assisting Pep, his philosophy should be attacking football. Which fits the current players they have and what Arsenal have been doing for 22 out of the last 24 years. Emery philosophy whatever it was, doesn't fit what they've been doing at the Arsenal academy for years and years. So yes Arsenal philosophy is more inline with Citeh's.

It doesn't matter what players and funds Pep and Zidane had at their disposal, because others have failed with resources similar. It's the instant command of respect they received from the players and then implementing their ideas in to where the players either accept and enjoy or reject and hate and the results show that.
 
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