Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - It's Amad World

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If this Pistorius trial was in America he would get off. Am i wrong?
 
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Another famous European night at the Bridge in store:ahh:
I'll try to make a live commentary from the pub where I'm going to watch the game with the brehs. May root for Chelsea just because :mjpls:
 

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So United going to get 2-0 or are we going with the 4-0 scoreline tomorrow :yeshrug: Ima be in Germany watching it too :heh: SCARF GAME PROPER
 

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Magical night at the Bridge please.

All Portuguese ref crew too :ohhh:

Have 150 bucks in combination of Chelsea scoring at least 2 goals, Over 2.5, Chelsea qualifying. We never get to see Chelsea in full flight, excited for this game cause they will exert full effort every minute here and its not something we see often with top clubs. PSG will never have been pushed this hard either.
 
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Magical night at the Bridge please.

All Portuguese ref crew too :ohhh:

Have 150 bucks in combination of Chelsea scoring at least 2 goals, Over 2.5, Chelsea qualifying. We never get to see Chelsea in full flight, excited for this game cause they will exert full effort every minute here and its not something we see often with top clubs. PSG will never have been pushed this hard either.

Ready to hear Mourinho bytching after the game for not getting his way

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Thing about wrestling is that no one ever explains why it's compelling. I suspect most people just keep watching because they started as kids.

Is it because it's very entertaining? It's something you don't have to think to hard about? Is for the fukkery? Is it for entertainment fukkery sorta how like a Michael Bay movie is? You don't watch Michael Bay movies because they're good but more so because you know you're getting the overblown spectacle? Does wrestling actually reach out to people on a personal level and reveal unknown tidbits about the human condition?

I actually sorta want to know :lupe:
To counter @horse. kills point, a good wrestling match is fantastic theater. But of course, as with anything, especially something dealing with such nuance, not that many people are good.

At it's best, a great wrestling match is violent, visceral performance art with very little wasted motion. Now, unless you're a person who can watch a boxing or MMA match and appreciate it for the science, this won't mean anything. If you're just a person who can watch either of those to see some excitement and see who wins, then you won't understand why people remain wrestling fans.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. This played out over three matches, but was pretty much the near-culmination of two years worth of build and lead to a complete paradigm shift a month later. The trilogy of matches between Samoa Joe and CM Punk in Ring of Honor back in the mid 00's.

Joe, a big Samoan dude, super explosive for his size, his moveset utilized a lot of strikes, submissions, vicious slams and shyt. He was the ROH Champ, had been steamrolling through challengers for two years. Mike Tyson in the 80's, in a way. CM Punk is this skinny, average sized dude, who really practiced the traditional, old school wrasslin. He gets a title shot. What does he do?

Stalls. Joe had been all about linking high impact moves together, building momentum, and just flattening dudes and getting them out of there. Punk (who is a heel btw), just ISN'T letting him. Any time Joe is building steam, he cuts it out with a time-killing hold, or even just rolls out of the ring. This goes on a while. Joe starts getting frustrated. About 25 minutes into the match, where all of his previous defenses had been done by now, and he's barely been able to lay a finger on Punk. He starts really pushing to do some damage, gets overanxious, and Punk makes him pay for it. Every time he loads up for one of his big moves, Punk has him scouted, and punishes him for it.

What happens? Joe is being taken into deep water, and slowly the fans start to realize "Holy shyt, Punk could NEVER be booked to go over Joe in a fire fight.....but this makes sense...jesus we might see the end of a two year title reign here" so the energy begins to build in the room. People are on edge. This dudes strategy is fukking working. Finally, he gets Joe down with his ultimate move...and the bell rings. The time limit expired. It's a 60 minute draw. Punk had done everything right. Completely out-maneuvered the more physically capable champion, he'd done EVERYTHING right...except his own stalling in the early going cost him. If he'd saved just thirty seconds of that he'd be the champ.

So, there's a rematch. In Chicago, Punk's hometown. Joe had been the biggest face in the company, Punk maybe the biggest heel. But in Punk's hometown, and coming off of the first match, it's a bizarro worl where the fans are there to see Joe lose and Punk win. Whereas in the first match the fans boo'd Punk's early bullshyt, his hometown fans are cheering the fukk out of him. They're there to see Punk win. He has the perfect strategy, has the hometown battery in his back, like, the title IS changing hands this time. Except, Joe has been the champ for two years for a reason. This time, he remains patient. When Punk pulls his bullshyt, Joe stays calm. He knows he can't lose the belt to another draw, so he doesn't give a fukk. It's Punk this time who panics, seeing his plan backfire. He goes all out, throwing everything he has a Joe.

Not a smart strategy considering Joe is a goon, but it's fukking CHICAGO, he can't lose here, and is going neck and neck with him. They go through an INCREDIBLE finishing stretch with Joe fully embracing being the heel this time now, Punk goes for the finish, but Joe has a lot more in the tank this time, goes to close the deal and....the bell rings. Time limit draw. Punk is pretty much in pieces now. He had the perfect strategy to win the first but lost it via his own hubris, and then in front of his own peoples, the same strategy couldn't work twice. Joe was just too good.

There's a rematch. This one with no time limit, but it doesn't matter. Punk's gambit didn't work the second, he doesn't bother to try a third. He tries to just go out there, gut it out, and beat Joe for the belt. Of course it doesn't work. He goes out on his shield and gets choked out.

Joe is completely legitimized as THE fukkING DUDE. He'd been champ for a while but had been on a fun but kind of empty bum of the month type roll. With Punk he got his Frazier or his Schmeling. Punk goes from a midcard heel to one of the most beloved babyfaces in the company.

At its best, wrestling is everything great about combat sports with a touch of more theater.
 
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