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[Big D Bangston]

You didn't read his book huh.

I read Tyson's book.
I remember the part where he went smelling like pigeon sh*t to a community center event and everyone was making fun of him and all he could do was smile

Whats the name of the book?

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Whats the name of the book?

Undisputed truth.

 

[RoidJonesJr]

Whats the name of the book?

The one I read is called "Undisputed Truth"

I think he came out with a new one this year but I haven't read it.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

The one I read is called "Undisputed Truth"

I think he came out with a new one this year but I haven't read it.

The new one is about his time with Cus.

 

[Newzz]

Garcia Open to Staying at 140, Moving Up to 147 After Broner

By Keith Idec

Mikey Garcia has consistently stated since his fight against Adrien Broner was announced last month that he intends to return to lightweight for his next bout.

As we get closer to their July 29 fight in Brooklyn, though, Garcia (36-0, 30 KOs) seems more open to remaining at 140 pounds after battling Broner (33-2, 24 KOs, 1 NC). The WBC lightweight champion even mentioned moving up to welterweight while discussing the Broner bout as part of a conference call Thursday.

The 29-year-old Garcia embraced boxing Broner because he has having difficulty securing the lightweight championship unification fight he sought. The Oxnard, California, native made it clear he won’t wait around again if he can’t land fights against WBA champion Jorge Linares (42-3, 27 KOs), IBF champion Robert Easter Jr. (20-0, 14 KOs) or whoever wins the recently postponed mandatory match between WBO champion Terry Flanagan (33-0, 13 KOs) and No. 1 contender Felix Verdejo (23-0, 15 KOs).

“I still have plans on coming down to 135 to unify the titles,” Garcia said. “But after being in boxing so long, and learning the politics and the business side, you’ve gotta be able to adjust and make those adjustments and continue with my career. I’m not gonna sit around and wait for a fight, or chase anybody. I’m here to take on the biggest fights available, the biggest challenges available, whether that means at 135 or 140 or possibly even 147.”

Beating Broner would firmly establish Garcia as one of the top 140-pound boxers in the sport and could thrust him into position to fight the winner of the Terence Crawford-Julius Indongo fight next month. Crawford (31-0, 22 KOs), the WBC/WBO super lightweight champion from Omaha, Nebraska, and Namibia’s Indongo (22-0, 11 KOs), the IBF/IBO/WBA 140-pound champion, are scheduled to square off August 19 at Pinnacle Bank Arena in Lincoln, Nebraska (ESPN).

Showtime will televise Broner-Garcia as a main event from Barclays Center. The telecast also will include a WBC middleweight elimination match that’ll pit Houston’s Jermall Charlo (25-0, 19 KOs) against Argentina’s Sebastian Heiland (29-4-2, 16 KOs).


Garcia Open to Staying at 140, Moving Up to 147 After Broner - Boxing News



Mikey Garcia at 147?

 

[patscorpio]

interesting article

Maybe there are worse things in boxing than Mayweather-McGregor

By Tris Dixon

AUGUST 26 hangs over boxing like an angry storm cloud.

The occasional bolt of Floyd Mayweather-Conor McGregor lightning will hit the headlines from now until fight week and then the rain – or the money – will pour into Las Vegas before Sin City can go back to sleep the next day.

Those who have visited Nevada to see a curious event featuring two A-listers will return to their more mundane existences, with memories of a tumultuous few days in the desert behind them.

Life will go on. And boxing will continue as before.

Yes, we will have a fight – or at least an event – to discuss. For a few days, we might wonder what had just actually happened to the Noble Art.

We may have to look at ourselves closely, analyze what we have witnessed and why we chose to do so (if you have).

But boxing will go back to being boxing, the same way it did after Mike Tyson dined on Evander Holyfield, the same way it has done following countless tragedies and the same way it has done after any number of mismatches.

It will not change. It will not improve. It will not deteriorate and chances are it will not learn any lessons.

Boxing will continue to be dysfunctional, borderline lawless and open to manipulation on just about any and every level.

It will continue to be the sport with the hardest structure to explain, nay, justify, to anyone hoping to become interested in it.

I mean, how do you even start to explain to a ‘non-boxing person’ how the best fighters in the divisions often do not hold the titles, and how there are four (minimum) championships apparently telling people who the best in the world actually are. How do you explain how the person challenging for a title has done nothing to merit it, how the fighters boxing for crowns are not even the best in their own countries, let alone in the world?

It is crazy. And if you think at how deep it all runs now, then a fight between Mayweather and McGregor might be the focal point of your rage but it is the tip of an ugly iceberg that has bigger problems than a Saturday night freakshow that will come, go, get condemned, be criticised and then be over.

I mean, one wonders when the next obscure heavyweight title challenger is going to be announced so even those who make a living in the sport are sent scurrying to their laptops to find out who they are, who they have fought and left trying to understand why they have not heard of them before.

What do they discover?

Turns out they did not recognise the names because the fighters were ‘never weres’ who were about to become ‘has beens.’

That they had notched a dozen regional wins, maintained a massaged unbeaten record and starred in a few fleeting clips on YouTube is all that could be discovered. Until there were exposed.

It is either that or the oldies are dredged back up for another go round, those that are not serving bans for using illegal substances.

The heavyweight division is, of course, fair game and has been for a while.

In Deontay Wilder we have a champion who no one knows whether is really good or bang average because he’s not faced a top opponent; this is a champion who has now reigned for almost three years and made five defences. Boxing has allowed him to become a mainstay kingpin without one true test.

Argue the merits of Bermane Stiverne and Chris Arreola all you like.

So many fighters today would never have even been able to flirt with a title contest when there were just one, or even two, champions. This is not a critique of those who have benefitted by the changes in the organisation of boxing.

And now, of course, there are many multiple weight champions or multi-title holders who will not, or should not, get into the International Boxing Hall of Fame.

Titles in different weight classes used to be a benchmark of greatness. Now it’s a sign of a connected promoter, a recognisable name or someone in the position to take advantage of a bizarre set of politics. There was once grandeur attached to title belts, but now you can build a collection without a signature win.

Robert Guerrero paid his dues in blood, and won world titles in two weight classes, but what was the best of his 33 wins? His pummeling of a shopworn Michael Katsidis? Victory over the often-disappointing Andre Berto? Not Canastota credentials, by any stretch.

Next week, Adrien Broner takes on Mikey Garcia. Broner is a four-weight world champion but must cite Antonio DeMarco or Paulie Malignaggi as his best victims. In old money, a three-weight world champion was an icon, the best of the best. Now you do not even have to clean out one division to win belts in three.

Put the boot into Mayweather-McGregor all you like but boxing’s house was not in order before and it will not be the fault of Floyd Mayweather or Conor McGregor that its house is not in order after August 26.

Make that event the object of your wrath and hate, but once it has come and gone we will be left with the same flawed sport that makes millionaires of average fighters, that keeps some real talents hidden from view and that, through promotional and governing politics has no real sense of order, no rhyme, no reason, little regulation and remains, in 2017, the wild west of sports and an embarrassment to those who constantly have to explain how something that is broken from the top down actually manages to even work.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Breadman picking his best skills from boxers:

Now there are different types of chins. If you can go to sleep at night you can be knocked out. But some guys like Marvin Hagler and GGG don’t show any effect of punches. Then there are fighters like Holyfield and Marquez who go down and get wobbled but are nearly impossible to stop. I don’t have defined categories of punchers but I can explain with descriptions.

Out of the better chins that I have witnessed Mike McCallum, James Toney, Marvin Hagler, GGG, Rocky Marciano, George Chuvalo, Henry Armstrong, David Tua, Jake Lamotta and Julio Cesar Chavez Sr show the least amount of effect as far punches being landed on them. They can be stopped but they rarely show the effect of solid punches.

Then you have fighters like Ali, Larry Holmes, Evander Holyfield, Juan Manuel Marquez, Arturo Gatti, Ray Robinson and Manny Pacquiao who show the effects and often go down but are extremely hard to stop.

All of the chins I have named are reliable they are just different.

Best Jab I have ever seen is tough. Some people love Sonny Liston’s jab. I loved it too but I thought Ali’s better because of his rhythm. I also like Joe Louis’s jab because he smothered your jab while using his own. Ken Norton does not have the reputation as a great jabber but his jab was excellent. He could actually outjab Ali. Toomy Hearns and Oscar De La Hoya have two of the better jabs of the last 30 years. I haven’t seen Hearns outjabbed but his jab could be taken away if you pressed him. Oscar’s jab was better than Hearns off the move but Oscar was caught in between styles too often.

For arguments sake I will give the best jab ever to Ali but there are some close seconds. Pernell Whitaker had as good as jab as I have seen but he doesn’t get credit for it. Holmes, Hearns, De La Hoya and Foster are in the argument. But the reason I picked Ali is because of his success vs Great Jabbers. He outjabbed Liston, Foreman and Foster. And all of them have top 20 jabs ever.

Best Rear Hand is risky. I say rear hand because of some southpaws who have excellent straight left hands. For example as for a scoring blow Manny Pacquiao’s slide left hand is as good as I have seen. When you try to jab him slides his head to his right and then drops a straight left hand down the pike. Adonis Stevenson also has a great straight left hand.

But the best rear hand I have seen is Joe Louis. Tommy Hearns and Alexis Arguello get some consideration but for me it’s Louis and here is why. Arguello’s straight hand is perfect in technique and angle. Just watch his shot of Kevin Rooney. Hearn’s straight right hand was the most feared punch in boxing in the 80s. But Louis’s right hand was quicker than Arguello’s and shorter than Hearn’s. You could crowd Hearns and keep him from getting that crazy extension on it. So my pick is Louis.

Best left hook comes down to 2 fighters for me. Ray Robinson and Roy Jones. Best and hardest are different. Robinson and Jones’s hooks were not only lights out bombs but they often scored valuable points with them. I honestly can’t differentiate between the two.

Left Hook to the body. My pick is Gerald McClellan. His left hook to the body was that good. It was the most dynamic left hook to the body I have ever seen. It was unreal. Chavez Sr, GGG and Ray Leonard all have cases.

Right hand to the body. This comes down to two people again. For me it Alexis Arguello or Ray Robinson. Arguello threw a right uppercut underneath the heart and it was devastating. Robinson threw a right hand around the left flank that was the best I have ever seen. I say Robinson edges this.

Jab to the body is Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather’s jab to the body is simply awesome. He scores points with it constantly. No one can stop it. And once he brings your eyes down to it he starts catching you upstairs with hooks with either hand.

Uppercut. This is my toughest pick. Jack Johnson had a great uppercut. But the film is hard to decipher. Evander Holyfield’s uppercut is efficient and brutal. Watch is Bert Cooper Performance. Ray Leonard had a great right uppercut and so did Joe Louis. Juan Manuel Marquez is in the middle of this argument. Mike Tyson’s was brutal. Kid Gavilan probably gets the most votes.

But the best uppercut I have seen on a consistent basis is Ricardo Lopez. Lopez’s uppercut is money. He can throw it with either hand. He not only scores points with it but he scores 1 punch kos with it. He turns it off of a hook or shoots it after a right hand with equal effect. Lopez gets the honor for me.

 

[King P]

]Garcia Open to Staying at 140, Moving Up to 147 After Broner - Boxing News


Mikey Garcia at 147?

Not liking his prospects at WW :porter:

 

[patscorpio]

Out of the better chins that I have witnessed Mike McCallum, James Toney, Marvin Hagler, GGG, Rocky Marciano, George Chuvalo, Henry Armstrong, David Tua, Jake Lamotta and Julio Cesar Chavez Sr show the least amount of effect as far punches being landed on them. They can be stopped but they rarely show the effect of solid punches.

oliver mccall needs to be in this...ive never seen this guy hurt at any given time or even close to going down

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

"

Make that event the object of your wrath and hate, but once it has come and gone we will be left with the same flawed sport that makes millionaires of average fighters, that keeps some real talents hidden from view and that, through promotional and governing politics has no real sense of order, no rhyme, no reason, little regulation and remains, in 2017, the wild west of sports and an embarrassment to those who constantly have to explain how something that is broken from the top down actually manages to even work."

All facts the boxing game at this point is pretty much like the music game, it aint all about how good you are its also about who you know $$$ . Our number 1 p4p is nowhere near as popular as he should be because his promoters (Rocnation) are fukkin ass at doing their job. How could they let a sequel do less numbers than the first? Ward is easily the best fighter out right now they should be promoting that fact

Take 154 lbs as another example - hidden talent in that division that should be buzzing

-Sanctioning bodies arent good enough, they arent laying the law down on fighters like 'yo this is your mandatory' , they wanna be like 'hey um i know youre a bit busy but umm we would really like it if you could fight the guy we set as your mandatory, please let us know if you have other plans '

-Floyd is part of the problem because as great as he is he also did some of this shyt and now because hes made the money that hes made all these fighters coming up wanna be like him with the shiny 0 on their record. You got fighters popping out like cockroaches on some 22 wins 0 losses shyt and all we have from them is some 3 minute youtube video . And I get it cause at the end of the day fighters are gettin paid to take hits to the face and health is most important cause you dont wanna end up like some of the boxing greats but at the end of the day these fighters wanna floss with the 0 and live like the money team but they aint willing to put in the work. Money Mayweather (not PBF) made De La Hoya and the rest of his opponents after that look like easy work to the point where we forget that yo, you wanna live like he does but you aint willing to get into the tough fights for it. It might shock some people but from De La Hoya onwards I'd say 3/4 of the opponents he schooled are future HOFers. Its hard to believe because he was just that good that he made them look like tune ups at times but thats the reality

-Then again I blame casuals too because casuals nowadays arent interested in fighters who dont have a 0 and its like the attraction of the Mayweather era (his 0) has blinded casuals and theyve forgotten that yo.. all the past greats in boxing have tasted defeat.. it just so happens that God only made one thing perfect

-All the cash is in the welterweight division.. part of that is because of Floyd the other reason is because this division has actually been giving the fights that people wanna see over the last 2 years I can name Thurman vs Garcia , Thurman vs Porter, Porter vs Berto, Brook vs Spence, Pacquiao vs Bradley, + big names in Crawford and Broner/Garcia coming into the division soon

-Promoters are to blame because some of em are lowkey blocking fights on some 'well we dont think theres enough money to be made in that fight ' . Motherfukker your job is to promote the fight in order for it to make money we got various forms of social media but for some reason these promoters are struggling to promote

-Fighters are to blame because some of them are blocking fights simply because they got too much of an ego. Example : Amir Kahn you were last seen getting knocked the fukk out by Canelo. Kell Brook was last seen getting a TKO by GGG and Spence in a home crowd back to back, however you may feel its widely considered that he put up a good fight. Before Canelo we cant even remember the last guy you fought and currently in the UK Kell Brook is more popping than you stop trying to flex some 70/30 60/40 deal because you are not the A side


I dont wanna type anymore because ill end up waffling but bottomline is July 29th another cop lover is gonna catch that fade

 

[patscorpio]

"

Make that event the object of your wrath and hate, but once it has come and gone we will be left with the same flawed sport that makes millionaires of average fighters, that keeps some real talents hidden from view and that, through promotional and governing politics has no real sense of order, no rhyme, no reason, little regulation and remains, in 2017, the wild west of sports and an embarrassment to those who constantly have to explain how something that is broken from the top down actually manages to even work."

All facts the boxing game at this point is pretty much like the music game, it aint all about how good you are its also about who you know $$$ . Our number 1 p4p is nowhere near as popular as he should be because his promoters (Rocnation) are fukkin ass at doing their job. How could they let a sequel do less numbers than the first? Ward is easily the best fighter out right now they should be promoting that fact

Take 154 lbs as another example - hidden talent in that division that should be buzzing

-Sanctioning bodies arent good enough, they arent laying the law down on fighters like 'yo this is your mandatory' , they wanna be like 'hey um i know youre a bit busy but umm we would really like it if you could fight the guy we set as your mandatory, please let us know if you have other plans '

-Floyd is part of the problem because as great as he is he also did some of this shyt and now because hes made the money that hes made all these fighters coming up wanna be like him with the shiny 0 on their record. You got fighters popping out like cockroaches on some 22 wins 0 losses shyt and all we have from them is some 3 minute youtube video . And I get it cause at the end of the day fighters are gettin paid to take hits to the face and health is most important cause you dont wanna end up like some of the boxing greats but at the end of the day these fighters wanna floss with the 0 and live like the money team but they aint willing to put in the work. Money Mayweather (not PBF) made De La Hoya and the rest of his opponents after that look like easy work to the point where we forget that yo, you wanna live like he does but you aint willing to get into the tough fights for it. It might shock some people but from De La Hoya onwards I'd say 3/4 of the opponents he schooled are future HOFers. Its hard to believe because he was just that good that he made them look like tune ups at times but thats the reality

-Then again I blame casuals too because casuals nowadays arent interested in fighters who dont have a 0 and its like the attraction of the Mayweather era (his 0) has blinded casuals and theyve forgotten that yo.. all the past greats in boxing have tasted defeat.. it just so happens that God only made one thing perfect

-All the cash is in the welterweight division.. part of that is because of Floyd the other reason is because this division has actually been giving the fights that people wanna see over the last 2 years I can name Thurman vs Garcia , Thurman vs Porter, Porter vs Berto, Brook vs Spence, Pacquiao vs Bradley, + big names in Crawford and Broner/Garcia coming into the division soon

-Promoters are to blame because some of em are lowkey blocking fights on some 'well we dont think theres enough money to be made in that fight ' . Motherfukker your job is to promote the fight in order for it to make money we got various forms of social media but for some reason these promoters are struggling to promote

-Fighters are to blame because some of them are blocking fights simply because they got too much of an ego. Example : Amir Kahn you were last seen getting knocked the fukk out by Canelo. Kell Brook was last seen getting a TKO by GGG and Spence in a home crowd back to back, however you may feel its widely considered that he put up a good fight. Before Canelo we cant even remember the last guy you fought and currently in the UK Kell Brook is more popping than you stop trying to flex some 70/30 60/40 deal because you are not the A side


I dont wanna type anymore because ill end up waffling but bottomline is July 29th another cop lover is gonna catch that fade

you was flowing breh..please continue

 

[patscorpio]

All the cash is in the welterweight division.. part of that is because of Floyd the other reason is because this division has actually been giving the fights that people wanna see over the last 2 years I can name Thurman vs Garcia , Thurman vs Porter, Porter vs Berto, Brook vs Spence, Pacquiao vs Bradley,

the bolded..we wasnt asking for this fight..i wanted berto off my TV

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

you was flowing breh..please continue

Well going forward for boxing its most important that sanctioning bodies become more strict and do their job. Really these guys are the 'Governments' of boxing so if they lay down the law then everybody else will fall in line. Its kinda like how a country in real life operates - if the Government doesn't put down necessary regulation then they're putting themselves in a position where big corporations can exploit them (in this case, the big corps of the boxing world would be like PBC and Top Rank). Cause right now what you've got going on is sanctioning bodies approaching fighters like 'you're lookin quite inactive my man better fight your mandatory or your belt/title shot might go missing ' > fighter responds by announcing a fight with a guy you've barely heard of that has a record that looks good on paper > sanctioning bodies respond like "okay "

Look at the heavyweight division, you got guys fighting for belts and you've never heard of them

And these promoters need to get off their high horse and do their job. Take GGG-Ward for example that fight didnt happen for two reasons : GGG ducking and promoters thinking not enough can be made from the fight... like yo you're a promoter its your job to sell a fight to the people. You've got TV, Radio, Social Media outlets (FB, Twitter, Instagram, Snap, Boxing outlets on youtube etc) and you can't sell a fight? . Cause real talk these promoters see what Floyd did and now they dont wanna work as hard for other fighters because 'well if floyd could promote himself why cant you' . shyt if I were a boxer right now with a decent following on social media I'd be paying them chatty patty outlets like balleralert and theshaderoom to promote my fights fukk these half hearted promoters. Post up pictures of my under 10% bodyfat physique during camp to get them hoes excited of course I'd have to make sure I put in that work in the ring I dont want the hoes to see me as the latest entrant in @Newzz thread of fighters getting sent to the bushes


As far as things go with fighters building their stock I think fighters need to take the free to watch approach, so none of that PPV shyt I want my fights to be on a platform where I can have millions watching me and okay I might make 2 milli guaranteed as opposed to 3 mill guaranteed if it were PPV but I could get a few sponsorships and endorsements to keep the money comin in :smartdumb: . build your fanbase and then slowly introduce a PPV model, by then your fans will be more than willing to cop because they'll assume you're gonna deliver the same product anyway :desiigner:

I say this for my nikkas at 154 and other dead divisions all of yall are in purgatory and with the way the business is these casuals dont know you so if I barely know you Im not droppin $40-60 on PPV to watch you on a Saturday night when I can drop 100 on 'backpage' as you guys overseas call it :tupac:. Mayweather can afford to put his fights on the PPV model hes a household name, Canelo can afford to because hes got the cosign from DLH and hes Mexican so they ride regardless, Anthony Joshua+Tyson Fury+Kell Brook+DeGale and a few others can afford to in the UK because the boxing culture over here is real deep the whole city will support your just because.. but anyone else trying to youre just shooting yourself in the foot


If they want to spice up divisions like 154 then the sanctioning bodies should each do a super six style tournament, that way theres no ducking opponents. The winner becomes an automatic mandatory for the champion holding said belt. It wont reduce all of the ducking and dodging going on but its a good start. I use 154 as an example because the best fighters over there are American so it puts them in a better position. Of course these fights would again be free to watch :P4PKing:.

Another thing that would help imo is if fighters simply knew which division is hot and where its poppin. Example is Mr Deontay Wilder - ofc hes fighting Ortiz in December but IF he beats him, swallow your pride and take the flight out to London and meet Joshua at Wembley. Theres more money in doing that than trying to force a fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Wembley is the new MGM Grand and I dont wanna take a flight out to Las Vegas to see this fight (should it happen) so Mr Wilder please do whats best for business

Im sure the bumsquad would agree that it would be better for Wilder to drop Joshua with that right hand infront of 90,000 as opposed to the much smaller MGM Grand :P4PKing:

 

[mr. smoke weed]

If Mikey's going up to 147 it's to fight Craw

 

[Newzz]

Well going forward for boxing its most important that sanctioning bodies become more strict and do their job. Really these guys are the 'Governments' of boxing so if they lay down the law then everybody else will fall in line. Its kinda like how a country in real life operates - if the Government doesn't put down necessary regulation then they're putting themselves in a position where big corporations can exploit them (in this case, the big corps of the boxing world would be like PBC and Top Rank). Cause right now what you've got going on is sanctioning bodies approaching fighters like 'you're lookin quite inactive my man better fight your mandatory or your belt/title shot might go missing ' > fighter responds by announcing a fight with a guy you've barely heard of that has a record that looks good on paper > sanctioning bodies respond like "okay "

Look at the heavyweight division, you got guys fighting for belts and you've never heard of them

And these promoters need to get off their high horse and do their job. Take GGG-Ward for example that fight didnt happen for two reasons : GGG ducking and promoters thinking not enough can be made from the fight... like yo you're a promoter its your job to sell a fight to the people. You've got TV, Radio, Social Media outlets (FB, Twitter, Instagram, Snap, Boxing outlets on youtube etc) and you can't sell a fight? . Cause real talk these promoters see what Floyd did and now they dont wanna work as hard for other fighters because 'well if floyd could promote himself why cant you' . shyt if I were a boxer right now with a decent following on social media I'd be paying them chatty patty outlets like balleralert and theshaderoom to promote my fights fukk these half hearted promoters. Post up pictures of my under 10% bodyfat physique during camp to get them hoes excited of course I'd have to make sure I put in that work in the ring I dont want the hoes to see me as the latest entrant in @Newzz thread of fighters getting sent to the bushes


As far as things go with fighters building their stock I think fighters need to take the free to watch approach, so none of that PPV shyt I want my fights to be on a platform where I can have millions watching me and okay I might make 2 milli guaranteed as opposed to 3 mill guaranteed if it were PPV but I could get a few sponsorships and endorsements to keep the money comin in :smartdumb: . build your fanbase and then slowly introduce a PPV model, by then your fans will be more than willing to cop because they'll assume you're gonna deliver the same product anyway :desiigner:

I say this for my nikkas at 154 and other dead divisions all of yall are in purgatory and with the way the business is these casuals dont know you so if I barely know you Im not droppin $40-60 on PPV to watch you on a Saturday night when I can drop 100 on 'backpage' as you guys overseas call it :tupac:. Mayweather can afford to put his fights on the PPV model hes a household name, Canelo can afford to because hes got the cosign from DLH and hes Mexican so they ride regardless, Anthony Joshua+Tyson Fury+Kell Brook+DeGale and a few others can afford to in the UK because the boxing culture over here is real deep the whole city will support your just because.. but anyone else trying to youre just shooting yourself in the foot


If they want to spice up divisions like 154 then the sanctioning bodies should each do a super six style tournament, that way theres no ducking opponents. The winner becomes an automatic mandatory for the champion holding said belt. It wont reduce all of the ducking and dodging going on but its a good start. I use 154 as an example because the best fighters over there are American so it puts them in a better position. Of course these fights would again be free to watch :P4PKing:.

Another thing that would help imo is if fighters simply knew which division is hot and where its poppin. Example is Mr Deontay Wilder - ofc hes fighting Ortiz in December but IF he beats him, swallow your pride and take the flight out to London and meet Joshua at Wembley. Theres more money in doing that than trying to force a fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Wembley is the new MGM Grand and I dont wanna take a flight out to Las Vegas to see this fight (should it happen) so Mr Wilder please do whats best for business

Im sure the bumsquad would agree that it would be better for Wilder to drop Joshua with that right hand infront of 90,000 as opposed to the much smaller MGM Grand :P4PKing:

Another great post and, as of right now, it would seem Wilder would have to fight over there....

















But Wembley is no MGM Grand breh, America is still the Mecca of Boxing, & even Joshua knows fighting Wilder would be held in Vegas per his own words


Vegas is THEE fight capital of the world and will always remain that way


That's why Joshua/Klitschko rematch is being discussed as being there and even Joshua is saying he must fight in Vegas period vs Wilder:

“I think, me, Vegas would be good,” he told RingTV.com. “I feel Vegas would be the spot. When I watched (Mike) Tyson — he used to fight (in Las Vegas). But yeah, I think America is the mecca of boxing so it can’t be denied. It would be one of the things ticked off my list.”

“Boxing is really good. But sure, if the opportunity came to fight someone like Wilder or someone like that in America I’d definitely jump at it,” he said, referencing WBC heavyweight titleholder Deontay Wilder.

Anthony Joshua wants to make U.S. debut in Las Vegas in 2017 - The Ring