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RoidJonesJr
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I read Tyson's book.
I remember the part where he went smelling like pigeon sh*t to a community center event and everyone was making fun of him and all he could do was smile
I remember the part where he went smelling like pigeon sh*t to a community center event and everyone was making fun of him and all he could do was smile
Stiverne just missed a random drug test...which according to WBC/VADA protocol, is the equivalent of a failed test. So he SHOULD lose his mandatory spot, which sets up Wilder-Ortiz in Nov. 
Parker is signed up with the WBC's VADA program and he recently missed a drug test too...maybe that's the reason why he didn't want the Wilder fight.
Wilder's Manager Concerned That Stiverne Missed His Drug Test
Jay Deas, co-manager and trainer of World Boxing Council heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs), admits that he's very concerned with the recent news that Bermane Stiverne missed a drug test for performance enhancing drugs, as mandated by the World Boxing Council as part of their Clean Boxing Program in association with The Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA).
VADA, which oversees the WBC's testing program, counts a missed test as a failed drug test.
The WBC announced on Monday that Stiverne had missed the test. It creates an obvious problem, because back in February the sanctioning body had ordered Wilder to make a mandatory defense against Stiverne.
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As BoxingScene.com previously reported, Wilder and his camp are very interested in facing undefeated Cuban puncher Luis Ortiz - potentially on November 4 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.
Wilder has been out of the ring since February 25, when he stopped Gerald Washington at Birmingham’s Legacy Arena.
In order to face Ortiz, Wilder and his team will have to deal with the issue of Stiverne being the mandatory - and the missed drug test might create a chain reaction where Stiverne loses his mandatory position.
“I don’t know the details, but it’s definitely something to be concerned about,” Deas said to the Tuscaloosa News. “Deontay has tested clean dating back to the Olympics (2008). We want a level playing field and we want everybody we get in the ring with to be clean as well. That should be a given, but unfortunately that’s not always the case.”
Wilder has had two scheduled opponents fall out in a twelve month span for failing pre-fight drug tests.
Ortiz himself failed a drug test in the past and served out a suspension after coming up positive for steroids.
“If we were to fight Ortiz, we would certainly insist that he’s tested like we’re tested,” Deas said.
Another potential opponent is Dominic Breazeale, who knocked out Izuagbe Ugonoh, on the undercard to Wilder's fight with Washington.
After that fight was over, Breazeale and Wilder had a physical confrontation at a Birmingham hotel. As a result of that incident, Breazeale filed a civil suit against Wilder.
“I haven’t heard his name much,” Deas said. “I haven’t heard he’s in the mix for this. If the fight was to come about, we would expect negotiations to begin once the suit is dropped. We’re not going to fight a guy and give him a shot at the heavyweight championship that’s suing us. That’s not how the world works.”
Wilder's Manager Concerned That Stiverne Missed His Drug Test - Boxing News
Parker is signed up with the WBC's VADA program and he recently missed a drug test too...maybe that's the reason why he didn't want the Wilder fight.
Stiverne just missed a random drug test...which according to WBC/VADA protocol, is the equivalent of a failed test. So he SHOULD lose his mandatory spot, which sets up Wilder-Ortiz in Nov.
Parker is signed up with the WBC's VADA program and he recently missed a drug test too...maybe that's the reason why he didn't the Wilder fight.
Parker, Stiverne, Wawrzyk, PEDvetkin?
I wonder why all these potential opponents end up either failing or missing drug tests when a chance to face a 6'7 undefeated, former Olympic Medalist, who's 38-0, with a 97% KO ratio, the Green Belt Champion becomes an option for them?
Risky fight. But definitely winnable. I'd give Ward a 55/45 shot at beating Parker. And i'd give him 80/20 at beating Bellew.
Don't think all that highly of the skills of most of these Heavyweights...i just think back to how well skilled Light HVY sized fighters like Eddie Chambers & Chris Byrd did against mediorce-ly skilled, Medium-sized Super Heavyweights like Parker's by using their speed advantage and their superior technique...no reason to think Ward couldn't do the same if matched correctly.
He has similar physical dimensions to Byrd & Chambers...only slightly smaller in walk around weight and height & reach.
Parker, Stiverne, Wawrzyk, PEDvetkin?
I wonder why all these potential opponents end up either failing or missing drug tests when a chance to face a 6'7 undefeated, former Olympic Medalist, who's 38-0, with a 97% KO ratio, the Green Belt Champion becomes an option for them?
#spooky
You gotta wonder how Ortiz is gonna look in November after going thru a full camp with VADA testing for the 1st time.
#spooky
You gotta wonder how Ortiz is gonna look in November after going thru a full camp with VADA testing for the 1st time.
He beats Ortiz and Joshua still dont want it, plus Parker/Povetkin/Stiverne all got recent drug test issues, I think Wilder would deserve to get a lot more respect put on his name
#SOG_soldier
New York knicks and phoenix suns stan
Tyson been eating wings, drinking beer and doing coke since he beat wlad. Wlad washes him in a rematch
SuikodenII
Where's Suikoden VI??????
SuikodenII
Where's Suikoden VI??????
I remember learning about child molestation in college and how it effects victims mentally and emotionally. The craziest part was how they'll blame themselves if they don't get the proper help.Mike Tyson was molested as a kid
For some reason it immediately came to mind that Mike Tyson had probably been molested at some point... I don't actually remember why, but I'm shocked that my assumption was true
BlackManLiveFromLondon
New God
Tyson Fury needs to come back I remember when he sonned Wlad in his own yard all these bumsquad boys were quiet 
Now Fury been off the scene for 18 months and the bumsquad is back at it with the Wilder stanning
nikka talkin bout he will baptize people.. nikka better find Jesus so he can baptize his resume
Luis dad-bod Ortiz is gonna UD Wilder
I remember when he sonned Wlad in his own yard all these bumsquad boys were quiet Now Fury been off the scene for 18 months and the bumsquad is back at it with the Wilder stanning
nikka talkin bout he will baptize people.. nikka better find Jesus so he can baptize his resume
Luis dad-bod Ortiz is gonna UD Wilder
SuikodenII
Where's Suikoden VI??????
He needs about 2 more months of weight training, then they should have him fight some scrub in Decembe. You don't forget boxing.