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[krackdagawd]

oh yeah i seen it with my own eyes too

the cat on the left of peter mcneeley is bobby harris..bobby used to train at my old gym..that was him in the amateurs

when i met him he hadn't fought in like 5-6 years....i thought he was mentally challenged cuz of the way he talked until he started boxing and he looked ...he was training for a comeback...he only had 23 pro fights..not a long career but he had a pair of back to back fights..his only losses and they were brutal...im thinking and the guys were like there was no way he would get licensed even if physically he looked ok..fast forward about 10 years..the last time i saw him was at dirrell-degale in boston with yawn..and dude was shaking...he has parkinsons now...its sad

I ain't wanna talk boxing because it was at a funeral but damn nikka got a good gig benefits retirement plan like what are you doing fam he is on the other side of 35 plotting a comeback.

Like I said fam it ain't even the punchers it's the sparring for WEEKS w punches to prepare for that fighter in combo w it. But in fantasy land nikkas are supermen n expected to fight killers w bricks for hands every fight or it looks funny. Then when nikkas are fukked up nobody cares. Im guilty of it too thats why ive kind of eased up on nikkas the last few because that shyt kinda fukked me up.

 

[The axe murderer]

oh yeah i seen it with my own eyes too

the cat on the left of peter mcneeley is bobby harris..bobby used to train at my old gym..that was him in the amateurs

when i met him he hadn't fought in like 5-6 years....i thought he was mentally challenged cuz of the way he talked until he started boxing and he looked ...he was training for a comeback...he only had 23 pro fights..not a long career but he had a pair of back to back fights..his only losses and they were brutal...im thinking and the guys were like there was no way he would get licensed even if physically he looked ok..fast forward about 10 years..the last time i saw him was at dirrell-degale in boston with yawn..and dude was shaking...he has parkinsons now...its sad

Damn and put into perspective some dudes that got hundreds of amateur bouts.... the sparring sessions in camps etc. It adds up and fast. You're thinking cats ain't really that affected from body shots but you see em pisssing blood that looks like dr pepper color. I really believe that the bouts g man had with julian jackson also added to it because he took some shots from that too

 

[H.I.M.]

On the flipside of the argument that we should give STAR fighters a break when it comes to regularly taking on tough opposition...the alternative is to place them against overmatched opponents, who themselves can get seriously hurt when placed in these mismatches that they have no business in.

I brought this up before, the only time you really hear people pretend to care about "fighter health" is when it's a star fighter that's asked to take on tough challenges...nobody cares about the journeymen/fringe contenders that are placed in mismatches to make star fighters/prospects look good. And they've ALWAYS got it the worse when it comes to debilitating injuries in boxing. And oftentimes don't have the money to cover medical expenses. You can't claim to care about "fighter health" and then co-sign mismatches. The chances of injuries and fighters getting "hurt" in boxing decline when elites face elites.

But constant heavy sparring and training camps to prepare for "championship level" opponents do take their toll on the body. I would bet Toney's issues are more due to having spar-heavy camps his whole career to stay in shape as a substitute for drills & roadwork.

But all this stuff comes with the territory like Floyd say...it's the hurt business

Everybody know the risks when they step in between them ropes...you can't half-ass it, and be worried about your health and all that shyt if you gonna choose that lifestyle...you in the wrong business if you are.

This is precisely why PRO boxing should only be for folks that had no other outlets or options in life.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

I would never say that about Jermall Charlo after only 1 fight vs Heiland at MW



If yall gonna imitate, yall should at least be a Canal Street level designer bag instead of Dollar General level imposters



Canelo aint fighting for the WBC belt, so Jermall Charlo has nothing to do with him, and by beating Heiland, it still doesn't make him a top 4 MW yet


Canelo vs Lemieux is next....and that's a totally fine matchup:abyoumad:

Canelo vs zurdo at 164.5?

 

[Newzz]

On the flipside of the argument that we should give STAR fighters a break when it comes to regularly taking on tough opposition...the alternative is to place them against overmatched opponents, who themselves can get seriously hurt when placed in these mismatches that they have no business in.

I brought this up before, the only time you really hear people pretend to care about "fighter health" is when it's a star fighter that's asked to take on tough challenges...nobody cares about the journeymen/fringe contenders that are placed in mismatches to make star fighters/prospects look good. And they've ALWAYS got it the worse when it comes to debilitating injuries in boxing. And oftentimes don't have the money to cover medical expenses. You can't claim to care about "fighter health" and then co-sign mismatches. The chances of injuries and fighters getting "hurt" in boxing decline when elites face elites.

But constant heavy sparring and training camps to prepare for "championship level" opponents do take their toll on the body. I would bet Toney's issues are more due to having spar-heavy camps his whole career to stay in shape as a substitute for drills & roadwork.

But all this stuff comes with the territory like Floyd say...it's the hurt business

Everybody know the risks when they step in between them ropes...you can't half-ass it, and be worried about your health and all that shyt if you gonna choose that lifestyle...you in the wrong business if you are.

This is precisely why PRO boxing should only be for folks that had no other outlets or options in life.

#FactsOnly


nikkas can drag up the Rod Salka's of the world 2 weight divisions, knock him out in devasting fashion in a huge mismatch, but turn around and go at the prospect of them facing more than 1 good fighter in a row

 

[#SOG_soldier]

N Amir Khan :Lol88:

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[#SOG_soldier]

#FactsOnly


nikkas can drag up the Rod Salka's of the world 2 weight divisions, knock him out in devasting fashion in a huge mismatch, but turn around and go at the prospect of them facing more than 1 good fighter in a row

Danny could have literally killed that nikka. All stanning aside fights like Canelo vs khan, Brook vs lil g, Salka vs danny, Cotto vs gamboa (gladly never materialized) have no place in boxing. I don't support shyt like that. There's plenty of jobbers at your weightclass

 

[The axe murderer]

Danny could have literally killed that nikka. All stanning aside fights like Canelo vs khan, Brook vs lil g, Salka vs danny, Cotto vs gamboa (gladly never materialized) have no place in boxing. I don't support shyt like that. There's plenty of jobbers at your weightclass

I keep whenever people bring up brook's fight night/ walking weight to convince themselves this wasn't a mismatch
Dude was getting lifted off his feet with those shots

 

[Newzz]

Canelo vs zurdo at 164.5?

That would be a good matchup actually

 

[Newzz]

Danny could have literally killed that nikka. All stanning aside fights like Canelo vs khan, Brook vs lil g, Salka vs danny, Cotto vs gamboa (gladly never materialized) have no place in boxing. I don't support shyt like that. There's plenty of jobbers at your weightclass

I agree

 

[Newzz]

I keep whenever people bring up brook's fight night/ walking weight to convince themselves this wasn't a mismatch
Dude was getting lifted off his feet with those shots

Let some tell it, Brook exposed GGG....even though he couldn't last 15 minutes, got bones in his face crushed, and damn near paid for taking that fight with his career

 

[David_TheMan]

I keep whenever people bring up brook's fight night/ walking weight to convince themselves this wasn't a mismatch
Dude was getting lifted off his feet with those shots

Yeah but thats also the thing of legends if you win.
If you pull a Shane and go to WW and make a splash, if you pull a RJJ and jump up to HW and beat a HW title holder.
It goes both ways.
I don't feel bad about the fighters who end up hurt, its a decision they make and they go into willingly, if they are good with it I am.
I'm only angry when I see a corner fail to protect their fighter when he is hurt or a showboating referee who rather move around than be in the proper position to profect a fighter.

Its a brutal bloodsport, as long as we don't have any inept or corrupt refs and officals, and no Panama Lewis type folks its just what you have to accept, like race car drivers and crashes.

 

[The axe murderer]

Let some tell it, Brook exposed GGG....even though he couldn't last 15 minutes, got bones in his face crushed, and damn near paid for taking that fight with his career

Yeah but thats also the thing of legends if you win.
If you pull a Shane and go to WW and make a splash, if you pull a RJJ and jump up to HW and beat a HW title holder.
It goes both ways.
I don't feel bad about the fighters who end up hurt, its a decision they make and they go into willingly, if they are good with it I am.
I'm only angry when I see a corner fail to protect their fighter when he is hurt or a showboating referee who rather move around than be in the proper position to profect a fighter.

Its a brutal bloodsport, as long as we don't have any inept or corrupt refs and officals, and no Panama Lewis type folks its just what you have to accept, like race car drivers and crashes.

Breh that's the thing, if that fight went longer like some of the fans wanted who knows what would have happened to his eye... now he's damaged goods but if his corner didn't chip in he would have been eating through a straw for life or worse. I see what you mean by being the stuff of legends but the thing is guys like sugar ray leonard rjj are genetic freaks with god given talent to be taking on these kinda odds moving up like they did.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

I keep whenever people bring up brook's fight night/ walking weight to convince themselves this wasn't a mismatch
Dude was getting lifted off his feet with those shots

nikka literally got his prime ended. Brook is now foid both eyes fukked up. nikka ate his way up to 160 then tried to fight at 147 and got stopped again. He need to cashout at 154 against Cotto or something.

 

[David_TheMan]

Breh that's the thing, if that fight went longer like some of the fans wanted who knows what would have happened to his eye... now he's damaged goods but if his corner didn't chip in he would have been eating through a straw for life or worse. I see what you mean by being the stuff of legends but the thing is guys like sugar ray leonard rjj are genetic freaks with god given talent to be taking on these kinda odds moving up like they did.

You don't know who is great or who is a fraud until they do what they have no business doing and against all odds IMHO.
I'll never be down on the lil guy or the supposed underdog taking a fight against someone who is "supposed" to beat them.
Hell look at Breidis Prescott, then look at the late sub who fought him on a undercard like Terrance Crawford, and look at Loma against Salido (he lost but that is a crazy fight to give a young pro), but its all what makes it great in my opinion.

the fighters take their life and the risk of greatness into their own hands.