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Kovalev's Trainer Jackson Tried To Jump Ship To Andre Ward's Team?


In less than three weeks, one of the most anticipated fights of the year will take place when Andre Ward (31-0, 15 KOs) steps in the ring with Sergey Kovalev (30-1, 26 KOs) for a second time.

Their HBO Pay-Per-View fight takes place on June 17th, from the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. The first fight, which took place last November at T-Mobile Arena, saw Ward survive an early knockdown to win a very close twelve round unanimous decision to capture Kovalev's IBF, WBA, WBO light heavyweight titles.

There was a lot of controversy over the scoring and the outcome. All three judges scored it 114-113 for Ward.

There was an immediate rematch clause, which Kovalev exercised to force the second pay-per-view showdown.

A few weeks ago, there were industry rumblings of potential issues between Kovalev and head trainer John David Jackson.

The most shocking of the rumblings was a claim that Jackson was considering the possibility of jumping ship to work with Ward. BoxingScene.com reached out to Ward's manager, James Prince, and the champion's legal adviser, Josh Dubin - who both confirmed that conversations were indeed held with Jackson regarding the possibility of working with Ward.

Both Prince and Dubin are very friendly with Jackson, because all three of them have a business relationship with heavyweight Bryant Jennings. But both were shocked when Jackson reached out to discuss the idea of coming on board.

According to Prince and Dubin, these discussions took place when Roc Nation and Main Events were working hard to finalize the rematch.

"It wasn't out of blue as so much as we speak from time to time because he trains Bryant Jennings. As it relates to this subject, it was certainly out of the blue. He had previously told me about issues that he was having with them. I don't think that was a big secret. Then he came out and straight up said that he wanted to join our team and in fact he named his price," Dubin told BoxingScene.com.

"There were several phone calls. We weighed it out and strongly considered it. This was something that was discussed over several weeks. It was something that we weighed out, something that he weighed out. But people don't call to leave their team because they feel appreciated and things are going good. They call to leave because things are not going good. I think John knows us well enough to know that when you're with us we treat you right and we respect the skills that you bring in."

Prince indicates that while they seriously considered the possibility of hiring Jackson, they ultimately passed to avoid a post-fight situation where Jackson's hire would overshadow the efforts of Ward and trainer Virgil Hunter. He feels Jackson is being marginalized in his current camp, with Kovalev recently bringing in a Russian conditioning coach.

"The thing is, Kovalev don't really listen to his man in the corner. The fact of the matter is, Jackson would love to be in the corner with the Americans. He wants to be where he's respected. We would show him more respect in our camp," Prince told BoxingScene.com.

"The paint is on the wall. You see the same things that we see. Kovalev is a Russian that wants to be surrounded by his Russian people. Jackson can't even talk in the corner. Imagine being a man who is training you and giving you all of this direction and then when the TV screen comes on, they want to insinuate like somebody else is in charge and gets the credit, so I sympathize with Jackson and his negotiations and his decision on when he wanted to jump camp to be in a stronger position, with the Americans.

"We didn't want Jackson to cause Virgil and Andre and the rest of the team not getting credit [in the rematch]. We thought about it strongly, that's why we were conversating with him because we felt that he could be somewhat of an asset. But at the end of the day it was an asset that we really didn't need. Let him stay over there with the Russians. The American wanted to be in the American corner.

"Then the Russian reached over and grabbed more Russians to be in his corner. At the end of the day, you'll see who is doing the talking, although they may call the man a conditioner or all of these different labels that they are giving him. They will keep Jackson looking as good as they want him to look because they don't want to show that bias to the public."

And of course, Kovalev has been under fire, more than once, over controversial posts on social media that some felt were racial in nature.

"That dude is showing Jackson who he is. Character is what you show when nobody is looking, when the TV is off, when the camera is not rolling. He's showing Jackson who he really is. And I don't think Jackson likes it at all from what I'm told," Prince said. - See more at: Kovalev's Trainer Jackson Tried To Jump Ship To Andre Ward's Team? - Boxing News



wtf:dwillhuh::mjlol:

The fukery levels would be immeasurable if he joined SOG's camp :laff: I'm glad they ultimately went against that though
 

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I had good reason too....Rios promised me, personally on Twitter, he was going to punish Uncle Tim:manny:



Then he blocked me after he lost:mjlol:
He in way too deep
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You nikkas are killing me today :mjlol:

 

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Why doesn't c00n David Jackson just walk?

This nygga is so desperate for a payday. These Russians call him all kinds of shyt, but he's able to put it aside for some money.

CDJ is a good trainer, but he chooses to pass his knowledge to cac' s that talk shyt about him behind his back.
There a decent number of dudes on the eastern block that are working with brothas but he goes with a loose canon. Abel Sanchez was right :hubie:
Wasn't he throwing american fighters under the bus? Hindsight is 20/20 ain't it
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There a decent number of dudes on the eastern block that are working with brothas but he goes with a loose canon. Abel Sanchez was right :hubie:
Wasn't he throwing american fighters under the bus? Hindsight is 20/20 ain't it
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yeah Khytrov, Derevyanchenko and Khurtsidze are all training in Brooklyn with Jacobs and Rozier and although I don't see into it they seem chill and kinda like a big family over there

You get very different vibes from Kov and his team
 

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yeah Khytrov, Derevyanchenko and Khurtsidze are all training in Brooklyn with Jacobs and Rozier and although I don't see into it they seem chill and kinda like a big family over there

You get very different vibes from Kov and his team
Word. Dude clearly got deep rooted issues he needs to sort out because that shyt will not help his career at all. Even if Duran was seen as wild and all he did stick with Nestor Quinones
 

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11:15 jdj - "ima let the fans on a secret. kovalev brought in another guy from Russia to speak. I was limited on what i could say. how u gonna limit me on what I say when divised the plan..."



I said something in the og ward/kkk thread that it didn't look like jdj was even giving advice in the corner. look like he was just giving him water. that's wild....u not gonna listen to him but then he gets all the blame for the loss ....:gucci:

 

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Mayweather: GGG Makes Many Mistakes, Canelo Will Win, By KO - Boxing News

Mayweather: GGG Makes Many Mistakes, Canelo Will Win, By KO

Former five division champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. is not only picking Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (49-1-1, 34 KOs) to defeat Gennady Golovkin (37-0, 33 KOs) - he is picking him to do so inside the distance.

Canelo will challenge Golovkin for the IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC middleweight titles on September 16th, on HBO Pay-Per-View. No venue has been finalized at the moment.

Mayweather dominated Canelo over twelve rounds back in September of 2013. But even Mayweather admits that Canelo has improved and gained more experience since their meeting. Canelo also claimed that he felt a bit drained from the contracted catch-weight of 152-pounds.

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Mayweather sees no way that Golovkin will come out on top in the contest.

“Do I think Triple G can beat Canelo? Absolutely not,” said Mayweather to Give Me Sport. ”I think there’s a few guys that can beat Triple G, and Canelo is on the top of the list. I believe that he’ll beat him. I really believe Triple G has good punching power as a fighter. He’s got good punching power, but he’s flat-footed. He makes a lot of mistakes, but boxing is different now."

Mayweather praises Canelo as being one of the best fighters in the entire sport. He expects Canelo to end Golovkin before the full distance.

“I don’t think it’ll go the distance. Canelo Alvarez is one of the best fighters in boxing right now. I commend him. I take my hat off to him,” said Mayweather.

Canelo was in action earlier this month, when he moved up to a catch-weight of 164.5-pounds to dominate Mexican rival Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. over twelve rounds at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

Golovkin saw action in March, at New York's Madison Square Garden, when he won a close twelve round unanimous decision over mandatory challenger Daniel Jacobs. It was the first time that Golovkin had gone the full twelve round distance and Jacobs became the first opponent to last the distance in 24 starts for Golovkin.

- See more at: Mayweather: GGG Makes Many Mistakes, Canelo Will Win, By KO - Boxing News

Well I guess one ca easily brush this off as Floyd want to make his win over Canelo better and better but he seems very confident in this and he usually doesn't praise his past opponents this much
 

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11:15 jdj - "ima let the fans on a secret. kovalev brought in another guy from Russia to speak. I was limited on what i could say. how u gonna limit me on what I say when divised the plan..."



I said something in the og ward/kkk thread that it didn't look like jdj was even giving advice in the corner. look like he was just giving him water. that's wild....u not gonna listen to him but then he gets all the blame for the loss ....:gucci:



Yeah night of the fight it was a Russian cat talking to Kov, and I pointed out a moment during the fight where JDJ started talking before Kov motioned for him to be quiet because he was listening to the Russian.

Pascal was right.:mjcry:
 
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Mayweather: GGG Makes Many Mistakes, Canelo Will Win, By KO - Boxing News



Well I guess one ca easily brush this off as Floyd want to make his win over Canelo better and better but he seems very confident in this and he usually doesn't praise his past opponents this much

He said Robert Guerrero was going to beat Keith Thurman.


Floyd always sides with his previous opponent or says nothing at all. I dont recall a time where he said a guy he faced previously would lose an upcoming fight.
 
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