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Some people's power don't make any sense. These guys catching you flush and your brain goes into overdrive before you leave the conscience world trying to understand what just happened like

Look@brehs eye's in the first video when he gets folded by what seems like an arm check left hook. Look @ 1:07 when they stop it and the sequence up to that jab. Breh is looking for the right hand all they way,..............eats 2 jabs then a 1-2, and as soon as his face get hits with the right, the left comes out of nowhere. Yea Randall had crazy power, but he disguised his punched really well too. That's why all the dudes he KO's look so shocked when they get hit, they're not expecting it.

@Yuzo had a GIF of the difference between a fastball and Mariano Riveria's fastball/cutter, the difference was .5 inches for 20yrs, barely anyone could touch it. Power is weird like that.
 

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What an ass whooping...

Rios coming off of taking out Mile High(as hell) Alvarado and a long lay-off but still...

Shoutout to @Newzz for saying BATB would lose, and @Skip b , for saying no only would TIm lose, but get knocked down several times.
 

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Kovalev's Trainer Jackson Tried To Jump Ship To Andre Ward's Team?


In less than three weeks, one of the most anticipated fights of the year will take place when Andre Ward (31-0, 15 KOs) steps in the ring with Sergey Kovalev (30-1, 26 KOs) for a second time.

Their HBO Pay-Per-View fight takes place on June 17th, from the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. The first fight, which took place last November at T-Mobile Arena, saw Ward survive an early knockdown to win a very close twelve round unanimous decision to capture Kovalev's IBF, WBA, WBO light heavyweight titles.

There was a lot of controversy over the scoring and the outcome. All three judges scored it 114-113 for Ward.

There was an immediate rematch clause, which Kovalev exercised to force the second pay-per-view showdown.

A few weeks ago, there were industry rumblings of potential issues between Kovalev and head trainer John David Jackson.

The most shocking of the rumblings was a claim that Jackson was considering the possibility of jumping ship to work with Ward. BoxingScene.com reached out to Ward's manager, James Prince, and the champion's legal adviser, Josh Dubin - who both confirmed that conversations were indeed held with Jackson regarding the possibility of working with Ward.

Both Prince and Dubin are very friendly with Jackson, because all three of them have a business relationship with heavyweight Bryant Jennings. But both were shocked when Jackson reached out to discuss the idea of coming on board.

According to Prince and Dubin, these discussions took place when Roc Nation and Main Events were working hard to finalize the rematch.

"It wasn't out of blue as so much as we speak from time to time because he trains Bryant Jennings. As it relates to this subject, it was certainly out of the blue. He had previously told me about issues that he was having with them. I don't think that was a big secret. Then he came out and straight up said that he wanted to join our team and in fact he named his price," Dubin told BoxingScene.com.

"There were several phone calls. We weighed it out and strongly considered it. This was something that was discussed over several weeks. It was something that we weighed out, something that he weighed out. But people don't call to leave their team because they feel appreciated and things are going good. They call to leave because things are not going good. I think John knows us well enough to know that when you're with us we treat you right and we respect the skills that you bring in."

Prince indicates that while they seriously considered the possibility of hiring Jackson, they ultimately passed to avoid a post-fight situation where Jackson's hire would overshadow the efforts of Ward and trainer Virgil Hunter. He feels Jackson is being marginalized in his current camp, with Kovalev recently bringing in a Russian conditioning coach.

"The thing is, Kovalev don't really listen to his man in the corner. The fact of the matter is, Jackson would love to be in the corner with the Americans. He wants to be where he's respected. We would show him more respect in our camp," Prince told BoxingScene.com.

"The paint is on the wall. You see the same things that we see. Kovalev is a Russian that wants to be surrounded by his Russian people. Jackson can't even talk in the corner. Imagine being a man who is training you and giving you all of this direction and then when the TV screen comes on, they want to insinuate like somebody else is in charge and gets the credit, so I sympathize with Jackson and his negotiations and his decision on when he wanted to jump camp to be in a stronger position, with the Americans.

"We didn't want Jackson to cause Virgil and Andre and the rest of the team not getting credit [in the rematch]. We thought about it strongly, that's why we were conversating with him because we felt that he could be somewhat of an asset. But at the end of the day it was an asset that we really didn't need. Let him stay over there with the Russians. The American wanted to be in the American corner.

"Then the Russian reached over and grabbed more Russians to be in his corner. At the end of the day, you'll see who is doing the talking, although they may call the man a conditioner or all of these different labels that they are giving him. They will keep Jackson looking as good as they want him to look because they don't want to show that bias to the public."

And of course, Kovalev has been under fire, more than once, over controversial posts on social media that some felt were racial in nature.

"That dude is showing Jackson who he is. Character is what you show when nobody is looking, when the TV is off, when the camera is not rolling. He's showing Jackson who he really is. And I don't think Jackson likes it at all from what I'm told," Prince said. - See more at: Kovalev's Trainer Jackson Tried To Jump Ship To Andre Ward's Team? - Boxing News



wtf:dwillhuh::mjlol:

he needs to leave. there are also reports that kkkov brought in another Russian trainer.

kkkov already been caught saying he don't think American trainers are better than Russian trainers and he has made it clear he don't fukk with Africans like that ...lol

I doubt john david Jackson gets any respect ....I don't see how a man can live under those conditions.

we knew this shyt would backfire on him....it backfires everytime on those type of "token" nikkas that hang around racist. lol

he needs to "GET OUT":damn:
 

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he needs to leave. there are also reports that kkkov brought in another Russian trainer.

kkkov already been caught saying he don't think American trainers are better than Russian trainers and he has made it clear he don't fukk with Africans like that ...lol

I doubt john david Jackson gets any respect ....I don't see how a man can live under those conditions.

we knew this shyt would backfire on him....it backfires everytime on those type of "token" nikkas that hang around racist. lol

he needs to "GET OUT":damn:
He in way too deep
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I had good reason too....Rios promised me, personally on Twitter, he was going to punish Uncle Tim:manny:



Then he blocked me after he lost:mjlol:

:russ:...i couldnt help but be :francis: at rios in that fight...getting ko'ed by tim bradley...rios was a legit talent and monster at lightweight...everything eroded due to wars and conditioning issues
 

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:russ:...i couldnt help but be :francis: at rios in that fight...getting ko'ed by tim bradley...rios was a legit talent and monster at lightweight...everything eroded due to wars and conditioning issues
:francis: Surey had nothing to do with him being in with an elite talent at 147 Pat
 

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Look@brehs eye's in the first video when he gets folded by what seems like an arm check left hook. Look @ 1:07 when they stop it and the sequence up to that jab. Breh is looking for the right hand all they way,..............eats 2 jabs then a 1-2, and as soon as his face get hits with the right, the left comes out of nowhere. Yea Randall had crazy power, but he disguised his punched really well too. That's why all the dudes he KO's look so shocked when they get hit, they're not expecting it.

@Yuzo had a GIF of the difference between a fastball and Mariano Riveria's fastball/cutter, the difference was .5 inches for 20yrs, barely anyone could touch it. Power is weird like that.
Yeah power is weird. I mean do cats know how strong tim bradley or shawn porter are? But they don't seem as heavy handed as spence etc. Tons of factors in it.
 

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:francis: Surey had nothing to do with him being in with an elite talent at 147 Pat
bradley to outbox him yes then i would have been like :manny:..not KO him..rios for all his faults is not a guy known to leave his feet and is durable..timmy ko'ing him showed how far gone rios was
 

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Broner fighting at 140? :mjlol:

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AB gonna AB :francis: he isn't going to change until it's too late :snoop:


Kovalev's Trainer Jackson Tried To Jump Ship To Andre Ward's Team?


In less than three weeks, one of the most anticipated fights of the year will take place when Andre Ward (31-0, 15 KOs) steps in the ring with Sergey Kovalev (30-1, 26 KOs) for a second time.

Their HBO Pay-Per-View fight takes place on June 17th, from the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. The first fight, which took place last November at T-Mobile Arena, saw Ward survive an early knockdown to win a very close twelve round unanimous decision to capture Kovalev's IBF, WBA, WBO light heavyweight titles.

There was a lot of controversy over the scoring and the outcome. All three judges scored it 114-113 for Ward.

There was an immediate rematch clause, which Kovalev exercised to force the second pay-per-view showdown.

A few weeks ago, there were industry rumblings of potential issues between Kovalev and head trainer John David Jackson.

The most shocking of the rumblings was a claim that Jackson was considering the possibility of jumping ship to work with Ward. BoxingScene.com reached out to Ward's manager, James Prince, and the champion's legal adviser, Josh Dubin - who both confirmed that conversations were indeed held with Jackson regarding the possibility of working with Ward.

Both Prince and Dubin are very friendly with Jackson, because all three of them have a business relationship with heavyweight Bryant Jennings. But both were shocked when Jackson reached out to discuss the idea of coming on board.

According to Prince and Dubin, these discussions took place when Roc Nation and Main Events were working hard to finalize the rematch.

"It wasn't out of blue as so much as we speak from time to time because he trains Bryant Jennings. As it relates to this subject, it was certainly out of the blue. He had previously told me about issues that he was having with them. I don't think that was a big secret. Then he came out and straight up said that he wanted to join our team and in fact he named his price," Dubin told BoxingScene.com.

"There were several phone calls. We weighed it out and strongly considered it. This was something that was discussed over several weeks. It was something that we weighed out, something that he weighed out. But people don't call to leave their team because they feel appreciated and things are going good. They call to leave because things are not going good. I think John knows us well enough to know that when you're with us we treat you right and we respect the skills that you bring in."

Prince indicates that while they seriously considered the possibility of hiring Jackson, they ultimately passed to avoid a post-fight situation where Jackson's hire would overshadow the efforts of Ward and trainer Virgil Hunter. He feels Jackson is being marginalized in his current camp, with Kovalev recently bringing in a Russian conditioning coach.

"The thing is, Kovalev don't really listen to his man in the corner. The fact of the matter is, Jackson would love to be in the corner with the Americans. He wants to be where he's respected. We would show him more respect in our camp," Prince told BoxingScene.com.

"The paint is on the wall. You see the same things that we see. Kovalev is a Russian that wants to be surrounded by his Russian people. Jackson can't even talk in the corner. Imagine being a man who is training you and giving you all of this direction and then when the TV screen comes on, they want to insinuate like somebody else is in charge and gets the credit, so I sympathize with Jackson and his negotiations and his decision on when he wanted to jump camp to be in a stronger position, with the Americans.

"We didn't want Jackson to cause Virgil and Andre and the rest of the team not getting credit [in the rematch]. We thought about it strongly, that's why we were conversating with him because we felt that he could be somewhat of an asset. But at the end of the day it was an asset that we really didn't need. Let him stay over there with the Russians. The American wanted to be in the American corner.

"Then the Russian reached over and grabbed more Russians to be in his corner. At the end of the day, you'll see who is doing the talking, although they may call the man a conditioner or all of these different labels that they are giving him. They will keep Jackson looking as good as they want him to look because they don't want to show that bias to the public."

And of course, Kovalev has been under fire, more than once, over controversial posts on social media that some felt were racial in nature.

"That dude is showing Jackson who he is. Character is what you show when nobody is looking, when the TV is off, when the camera is not rolling. He's showing Jackson who he really is. And I don't think Jackson likes it at all from what I'm told," Prince said. - See more at: Kovalev's Trainer Jackson Tried To Jump Ship To Andre Ward's Team? - Boxing News



wtf:dwillhuh::mjlol:

Come roll w the winners JDJ:mjgrin:
 

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Kovalev's Trainer Jackson Tried To Jump Ship To Andre Ward's Team?


In less than three weeks, one of the most anticipated fights of the year will take place when Andre Ward (31-0, 15 KOs) steps in the ring with Sergey Kovalev (30-1, 26 KOs) for a second time.

Their HBO Pay-Per-View fight takes place on June 17th, from the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. The first fight, which took place last November at T-Mobile Arena, saw Ward survive an early knockdown to win a very close twelve round unanimous decision to capture Kovalev's IBF, WBA, WBO light heavyweight titles.

There was a lot of controversy over the scoring and the outcome. All three judges scored it 114-113 for Ward.

There was an immediate rematch clause, which Kovalev exercised to force the second pay-per-view showdown.

A few weeks ago, there were industry rumblings of potential issues between Kovalev and head trainer John David Jackson.

The most shocking of the rumblings was a claim that Jackson was considering the possibility of jumping ship to work with Ward. BoxingScene.com reached out to Ward's manager, James Prince, and the champion's legal adviser, Josh Dubin - who both confirmed that conversations were indeed held with Jackson regarding the possibility of working with Ward.

Both Prince and Dubin are very friendly with Jackson, because all three of them have a business relationship with heavyweight Bryant Jennings. But both were shocked when Jackson reached out to discuss the idea of coming on board.

According to Prince and Dubin, these discussions took place when Roc Nation and Main Events were working hard to finalize the rematch.

"It wasn't out of blue as so much as we speak from time to time because he trains Bryant Jennings. As it relates to this subject, it was certainly out of the blue. He had previously told me about issues that he was having with them. I don't think that was a big secret. Then he came out and straight up said that he wanted to join our team and in fact he named his price," Dubin told BoxingScene.com.

"There were several phone calls. We weighed it out and strongly considered it. This was something that was discussed over several weeks. It was something that we weighed out, something that he weighed out. But people don't call to leave their team because they feel appreciated and things are going good. They call to leave because things are not going good. I think John knows us well enough to know that when you're with us we treat you right and we respect the skills that you bring in."

Prince indicates that while they seriously considered the possibility of hiring Jackson, they ultimately passed to avoid a post-fight situation where Jackson's hire would overshadow the efforts of Ward and trainer Virgil Hunter. He feels Jackson is being marginalized in his current camp, with Kovalev recently bringing in a Russian conditioning coach.

"The thing is, Kovalev don't really listen to his man in the corner. The fact of the matter is, Jackson would love to be in the corner with the Americans. He wants to be where he's respected. We would show him more respect in our camp," Prince told BoxingScene.com.

"The paint is on the wall. You see the same things that we see. Kovalev is a Russian that wants to be surrounded by his Russian people. Jackson can't even talk in the corner. Imagine being a man who is training you and giving you all of this direction and then when the TV screen comes on, they want to insinuate like somebody else is in charge and gets the credit, so I sympathize with Jackson and his negotiations and his decision on when he wanted to jump camp to be in a stronger position, with the Americans.

"We didn't want Jackson to cause Virgil and Andre and the rest of the team not getting credit [in the rematch]. We thought about it strongly, that's why we were conversating with him because we felt that he could be somewhat of an asset. But at the end of the day it was an asset that we really didn't need. Let him stay over there with the Russians. The American wanted to be in the American corner.

"Then the Russian reached over and grabbed more Russians to be in his corner. At the end of the day, you'll see who is doing the talking, although they may call the man a conditioner or all of these different labels that they are giving him. They will keep Jackson looking as good as they want him to look because they don't want to show that bias to the public."

And of course, Kovalev has been under fire, more than once, over controversial posts on social media that some felt were racial in nature.

"That dude is showing Jackson who he is. Character is what you show when nobody is looking, when the TV is off, when the camera is not rolling. He's showing Jackson who he really is. And I don't think Jackson likes it at all from what I'm told," Prince said. - See more at: Kovalev's Trainer Jackson Tried To Jump Ship To Andre Ward's Team? - Boxing News



wtf:dwillhuh::mjlol:
Props to @LeVraiPapi, told me this right after their fight last year. Don't know how any non-soviet could be down with cat. Even wario :dahell:'d him, and he's the king of getting :dahell:'d
 
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