The most sensible explanation of DEI that I ever heard …

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Chat GPT Summary (still listen for his examples):

In the discussion about DEI Initiatives and Government Employment (00:20:12 - 00:31:58), Tim Miller and David French explore the controversial stance of the Trump administration regarding diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) within federal government employment.

1. Mixed Feelings on DEI: French acknowledges that while some aspects of DEI initiatives have been problematic and led to discriminatory practices, there are also important and necessary elements aimed at addressing historical injustices and ensuring equitable representation.

2. Trump's Approach: The conversation critiques Trump’s sweeping dismissal of all DEI efforts, arguing that this fails to recognize the value in some diversity initiatives that are lawful and necessary, such as those aimed at improving access for underrepresented communities.

3. Hiring Freeze Impacts: They discuss the implications of a blanket hiring freeze in the federal government, which could lead to losing qualified individuals in critical roles, including those related to public service and law enforcement, affecting the government's ability to operate effectively.

4. Concerns Over Civil Liberties: The speakers express worries about the potential civil liberties violations that could arise from mass enforcement actions, especially if aggressive tactics are deployed without proper oversight or consideration for individual rights.

Overall, this segment highlights the complexities of DEI initiatives, the potential consequences of Trump's policies on government efficiency and civil liberties, and the necessity for thoughtful, nuanced approaches to diversity in public service.
 

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This video would also apply to the Coli posters (usual suspects) that argue “DEI was bad because it didn’t help black people”.

Instead of blaming DEI initiatives the best solution is to focus on how it can be fixed to address leaving out other marginalized groups.
Coli posters are mostly white, so they, by default, believe that any Black person with a good job is hired via DEI, often without fully understanding the term.

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Rich white politicians will use anything to distract this country full of rubes from the fact that they're being taken advantage of.

It's always some changing boogeyman that's coming to take what's yours....whether it's the Soviets or Black people or Immigrants or Women or Gays or whatever.

It's just that the current version is this phony "DEI" bullshyt narrative.
 

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You didn’t watch it or read it huh?

And yet here you are commenting.

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I did watch it. The dude speaking on the University of Michigan initiatives and being rebuked by the Biden administration for discriminating against Jewish students, but that automatically puts me on edge because the biggest fault with that shyt is the set asides for women. Even your so called "libral whites" going into race DEI before addressing gender DEI is horseshyt, because they know the overwhelming beneficiaries of that shyt is White women. But go on. :beli:
 

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I did watch it. The dude speaking on the University of Michigan initiatives and being rebuked by the Biden administration for discriminating against Jewish students, but that automatically puts me on edge because the biggest fault with that shyt is the set asides for women. But go on. :beli:

Good.

I will, thanks. :jbhmm:

My comment was addressing how it’s usually viewed. Yes it’s really about people of different races, those with disabilities, various ages, different genders, and different sexual orientations as well. Set-asides can be tricky they should be fair so no one feels left out.
 

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Good.

I will, thanks. :jbhmm:

My comment was addressing how it’s usually viewed. Yes it’s really about people of different races, those with disabilities, various ages, different genders, and different sexual orientations as well. Set-asides can be tricky they should be fair so no one feels left out.
Equality =/= Equity
 

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Good.

I will, thanks. :jbhmm:

My comment was addressing how it’s usually viewed. Yes it’s really about people of different races, those with disabilities, various ages, different genders, and different sexual orientations as well. Set-asides can be tricky they should be fair so no one feels left out.
How it is usually viewed is what they addressed. They had issues with it being race based and they had strong feelings on that but somehow glossed over all of those other DEI groups. Even his Texas example would benefit overwhelming White and Hispanic students, but they were OK with that one. :beli:
 

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How it is usually viewed is what they addressed. They had issues with it being race based and they had strong feelings on that but somehow glossed over all of those other DEI groups. Even his Texas example would benefit overwhelming White and Hispanic students, but they were OK with that one. :beli:

It's commonly seen as race-based, primarily benefiting Black people. It's significant (to me) that they worked to challenge this misconception … as that kind of clarification doesn't happen often enough.
 

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It's commonly seen as race-based, primarily benefiting Black people. It's significant (to me) that they worked to challenge this misconception … as that kind of clarification doesn't happen often enough.
That is the problem. It is not race based. That is part of the massive misinformation. They continue to not address the elephant in the room. The gender component is much larger than the race based component.
 

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That is the problem. It is not race based. That is part of the massive misinformation. They continue to not address the elephant in the room. The gender component is much larger than the race based component.
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That’s my point and the point of the video.

One video can’t cover it all.
 

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That’s my point and the point of the video.
See you don't even believe your own crap, because you still didn't address the elephant in the room and they didn't either. There have been set asides for women in schools, business on and on and on. Title IX is a set aside provision just for White women. If you are going to address DEI then address all of it. That is my point. :beli:
 
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