'The Last of Us' HBO Series (NO GAME SPOILERS!) | Season 2 Coming 2025 (7 Episodes) | Season 2 Official Teaser Released
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thats actually NOT true at all and in fact just a few minutes ago they released a story on Kotaku with Druckman and Mazin the show writers who were asked about this and its not my wording but theirs " a major change "
The Last Of US TV Show Creators Explain Massive Change From The Game
Neil Druckmann and Craig Mazin discuss adapting Bill and Frank’s story
kotaku.com
"Last night’s episode not only delved into the relationship in detail via flashbacks, it also changed how it ended.
“When we got to this part in the season, Craig brought up a really interesting point which is... there’s a lot of examples of things not turning out well for people, and often those are reflections and cautionary tales for Joel of ‘here’s what you stand to lose’,” Druckmann told IGN. “It was, what if we show them what you could stand to win?”
In the game, Bill helps Joel and Ellie find a truck they can use to head west. Bitter and foul-mouthed, he’s the lone person left in a town called Lincoln, surrounded by infected and his home-made booby traps. He lectures the pair on how caring about others is a sure-fire way to get yourself killed, mentioning a close partner he tried to take care of in the past. Later on that partner is revealed to have hanged himself after becoming infected, writing in a note that it was ultimately still better than remaining with Bill."
so pretty much this episode changes the story dynamic for Bill and the writers admit that they did this intentionally
well i guess one of the reasons is Druckman is real big into the whole intersectionality and refusing character or story "tropes" and the tragic gay relationship is a huge trope for a lot of stories ( at the time this game was written in 2013 ) in media so in a game media it wasnt something that was even ventured - it was groundbreaking just that there was a "gay" that wasnt obviously "gay" in TLOU so ...
anyway ultimately in the game the banter between Bill and Ellie and with Joel kind of having to be the referee is the thing that moves the needle on him since he pretty much behaves and does the shyt Bill does ( ie close himself off and dont foster relationships with anyone and be as ruthless and objectives as fukk because thats what got him this far )
and mind you im not saying that the episode was terrible - or badly acted - its just it removed the focus from Joel and Ellie ( and them working thru their own fukked up interpersonal behavior ) which is where it should be at least this early in the story for observer ........
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RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
Idk why they changed the story up from the game, but they're saying it could be a lock for a Nick Offerman Emmy
RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
Homie that played Bill in the game could have done the show. He was in Deadwood smh
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
New viewers interested in quality television?
Its obvious the story of the games resonated enough with gamers to think that maybe there might be a bit more mass appeal to this narrative so they went for it. That doesn't mean shyt needs to be 1:1 recreation. They can take creative liberties considering they are dealing with a new medium and they are doing just that. At the end of the day people want a great Sunday night television show to tune into every week. Being based off a game doesn't matter and appealing only to gamers would be fukking stupid. They got millions of new folks who will never pick up a controller watching this shyt. fukk gamers at this point.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
I can’t catch up. Too much good stuff on TV. I can’t have a life and binge all that extra stuff. Lol
OJ Simpsom
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Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
Ron Swanson in the apocalypse 
When he said don't tell other ppl about his spot cause it isn't an Arby's had me like 
The beginning of the episode is just like Nick Offerman's character in Parks n Rec 
Sad episode though
Glad he found a partner to ride out the apocalypse with rather than be alone even if it was 
I see they acknowledged females getting periods in an post apocalypse world.... something the Walking Dead never did (Elle finding the tampons in the basement).
The final shot of the truck driving away though the bedroom window though....
When he said don't tell other ppl about his spot cause it isn't an Arby's had me like The beginning of the episode is just like Nick Offerman's character in Parks n Rec Sad episode though
Glad he found a partner to ride out the apocalypse with rather than be alone even if it was I see they acknowledged females getting periods in an post apocalypse world.... something the Walking Dead never did (Elle finding the tampons in the basement).The final shot of the truck driving away though the bedroom window though....
Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
Never heard of this woman before but she kinda looks like Selena Gomez in that pic.
Thanks for posting the song name though
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
The final shot of the truck driving away though the bedroom window though....
I love these little hints to the game without being super obvious
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
You’re crazy if you think this episode was divisive, this is projecting a bit too much. I’ve been seeing undying praise for this shyt all day
And i say that as it wasn’t even my favorite episode
Right here they're speaking to him lecturing Joel but no mention of Joel changing his feelings towards Ellie because of it. I just don't see where Joel changed and began to open up to Ellie because of Bill.
in fact he still tries to get rid of her much later in the game.
In the game I saw Bill as nothing more than a means to an end. And a little comedy.
This episode absolutely drew a very distinctive line between two different camps on how they felt about it.
I'm surprised you haven't noticed.