The idea you can be a choker when youre already a champion is *** backwards

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Like we know you dumb simple minded nigggas are attached to your talking points but Im sorry if you win a ring, even one ring you cannot be a choker. Arod is not a choker he had one of the best postseasons of all time. Peyton not a choker, he led one of the greatest playoff comebacks of all time vs the vaunted belly/brady combo.

The Braves ARE NOT baseballs version of the Buffalo Bills, they won a title.

Lebron is already not a choker regrdless if he ever wins again.

stop living in fantasy world of clutch and choking and come to reality.
 

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Peyton had one of the worst playoff runs in history when he did win though that's the difference

3 TD,63%, 7 INT, 70.5 passer rating. That's the lowest passer rating for a superbowl winning quarterback over the course of a playoff run ever:why:

Lebron and Arod had HISTORIC playoff runs carrying their teams to titles
 

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Peyton had one of the worst playoff runs in history when he did win though that's the difference

3 TD,63%, 7 INT, 70.5 passer rating. That's the lowest passer rating for a superbowl winning quarterback over the course of a playoff run ever:why:

Lebron and Arod had HISTORIC playoff runs carrying their teams to titles
 

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that qb rating is misleading, most great qbs dont have great qb ratings in te postseason its a proven fact, Tom Brady mr clutch qb rating in posseason isnt THAT much better than Peytons. That shiit is a flawed stat anyway, Alex fukkin Smith was 3rd this year in qb rating when he was benched and no arm pennington used to always have a good qb rating.

edit: lol actually coming into this postseason peytons postseason passer rating was higher than mr clutch Tom, next dumb ass argument
 

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that qb rating is misleading, most great qbs dont have great qb ratings in te postseason its a proven fact, Tom Brady mr clutch qb rating in posseason isnt THAT much better than Peytons. That shiit is a flawed stat anyway, Alex fukkin Smith was 3rd this year in qb rating when he was benched and no arm pennington used to always have a good qb rating.



Explain the 3 TDs and 7 Ints. Is that misleading too?
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I don't consider Peyton a choker just a bit overrated at times...but you can't tell me Farve wasn't a gag artist.

He lost way more games "having fun out there" than he won :smugfavre:
I don't give a shyt how many rings he got.
 

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Explain the 3 TDs and 7 Ints. Is that misleading too?

heres the thing he didnt have a great postseason as a whole but did he not lead his team back in one of the greatest comebacks in postseason history vs his hated rival who he always has to hear about? if he was a choker he could never be capable of doing that

the problem with Brady dikkriders, Peyton that postseason besides the pats game didnt have to carry the colts. but meantime when peyton was chewing teams up in the first round those few years yall were like it dont count its vs the cheifs or some nonsense but Brady could play vs the scrubiest team and just mangage the game and you nikkas gas him. Brady aint been that much better than Peyton in the offs despite his TEAMS record being better.and we dont need to talk about reg season where peyton blows him away, no homo
 

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I don't consider Peyton a choker just a bit overrated at times...but you can't tell me Farve wasn't a gag artist.

He lost way more games "having fun out there" than he won :smugfavre:
I don't give a shyt how many rings he got.

firs off favre only got one ring but second favre wasnt a choker just a reckless idiot. but he did the same thing in the regular season so its fair to label him as such. thats who he was. but peyton haters want to take his whole career and boil it down to 20 games just to fit their own agenda
 

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Playoffs

Tom Brady: 22 games (16-6 record)
499-793 (63%), 5285 yards, 38 TD, 20 INT
Per game: 23-36, 240 yards, 1.7 TD, 0.9 INT

Peyton Manning: 19 games (9-10 record)
453-718 (63%), 5389 yards, 29 TD, 19 INT
Per game: 24-38, 283 yards, 1.5 TD, 1.0 INT

Higher TD percentage+Lower Interception percentage= better playoff QB. That's not even factoring the 2 picks he threw yesterday :snoop:

As for "blowing him away in the RS"

Regular season

Tom Brady (124-35 career record, 78%) 35 game winning drives (One every 4.5 starts)
159 starts 96.4 rating, 3397-5321 (64%), 39979 yards, 300 TD, 115 INT, 7.7 ay/a
Per Game: 22-33, 251 yards, 1.9 TD, 0.7 INT

Peyton Manning (141-67 career record, 66%) 44 game winning drives (One every 4.7 starts)
208 starts 94.9 rating, 4682-7210 (65%), 54828 yards, 399 TD, 198 INT, 7.5 ay/a
Per Game: 22-33, 264 yards, 1.9 TD, 1 INT

Peyton being better then Brady in the RS is also a myth
 

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Playoffs

Tom Brady: 22 games (16-6 record)
499-793 (63%), 5285 yards, 38 TD, 20 INT
Per game: 23-36, 240 yards, 1.7 TD, 0.9 INT

Peyton Manning: 19 games (9-10 record)
453-718 (63%), 5389 yards, 29 TD, 19 INT
Per game: 24-38, 283 yards, 1.5 TD, 1.0 INT

Higher TD percentage+Lower Interception percentage= better playoff QB. That's not even factoring the 2 picks he threw yesterday :snoop:

As for "blowing him away in the RS"

Regular season

Tom Brady (124-35 career record, 78%) 35 game winning drives (One every 4.5 starts)
159 starts 96.4 rating, 3397-5321 (64%), 39979 yards, 300 TD, 115 INT, 7.7 ay/a
Per Game: 22-33, 251 yards, 1.9 TD, 0.7 INT

Peyton Manning (141-67 career record, 66%) 44 game winning drives (One every 4.7 starts)
208 starts 94.9 rating, 4682-7210 (65%), 54828 yards, 399 TD, 198 INT, 7.5 ay/a
Per Game: 22-33, 264 yards, 1.9 TD, 1 INT

Peyton being better then Brady in the RS is also a myth

stats dont tell the story in football, Brady has everything handed to him while peyton runs the damn offense by himself basically. football is not a good sport for stats because they depend way too much on how the team is as a whole. its like saying such and such rb behind the broncos old line is better than such and such running back behind lets say the Jets line from this season. Its not all about the RB
 

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firs off favre only got one ring but second favre wasnt a choker just a reckless idiot. but he did the same thing in the regular season so its fair to label him as such. thats who he was. but peyton haters want to take his whole career and boil it down to 20 games just to fit their own agenda

Be clear, not reckless.... a choker. :stopitslime:

I never bought into that gunslinger sh-t. He must have the record for throwing picks when the game's on the line.

I wouldn't boil Peyton's whole career down to 20 games, but the playoffs have always been weighed heavier than the regular season when remembering all time greats and you must admit many times he's played mediocre and a few times he's sh-t the bed.

Just don't forget that part of history when you're crowing about him being just like "another coach out there".
 

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Be clear, not reckless.... a choker. :stopitslime:

I never bought into that gunslinger sh-t. He must have the record for throwing picks when the game's on the line.

I wouldn't boil Peyton's whole career down to 20 games, but the playoffs have always been weighed heavier than the regular season when remembering all time greats and you must admit many times he's played mediocre and a few times he's sh-t the bed.

Just don't forget that part of history when you're crowing about him being just like "another coach out there".
choker to me means the pressure got to you, I dont think pressure is why favre lost I think he just could not resist making dumb plays. Listen i hate favre so Im not trying to defend him hes completely overated, another reason i dont think hes a choker us its not like in the reg season he never threw int and then postseason comes around and hes throwing games away, he played like that all the time, thats who he was. A choker to me is tony romo, dude isnt even in the offs and shyts the bed every december. people that want to weight the postseason more it baffles me. we are comparing hundreds of games to 20 games and judging the dude off the 20 games rather than the hundreds. not logical at all. its really that people want sports to be some fairy tale, thats why theres all these little pieces on ray lewis or if its a ravens/niners sb it will be brother vs brother and guys that choke and guys that are clutch fit in with this fairy tale that some of you moron sports fans want to buy into. why can it just be a game where the highest level of athletes compete? why do we need to add this extra bs. if we purly used logic nobody would ever judge players in team sports by titles they won or how they played in a handful of games vs how they played in 95 percent of their career which is the regular season
 

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The one thing Ill never get with the stat heads is the idea of choking/clutch being fake.

Manning is a choker.
 
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