The helical model - our solar and galaxy system is a vortices
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as the scales of space increase the bond between time and energy is mind numbing
There is such a noumenal yet intuitively apparent relationship between the very small and the very large large
pondering this stuff is blissful, but the undressing of our permanent ignorance aka the ultimate mystery is nerve racking
There is such a noumenal yet intuitively apparent relationship between the very small and the very large large
pondering this stuff is blissful, but the undressing of our permanent ignorance aka the ultimate mystery is nerve racking
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There is. I have been thinking about this for a while. The symmetries are startling. Subatomic particle to planet ,atom to solar system, constellation to molecule, galaxy to cell, cluster to tissue, supercluster to organ? local group to organ system,Universe to ??? Organism?
The place on the scale that seems to be the most diverse, at least to my eyes, is at "the human scale."
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Not surprising to me. I've been of the opinion that 'reality' is nothing more than a fractal and we're just not at the correct perspective to appreciate it......yet.
Trying to envision what the Universe looks like from the 'outside' (if that is even possible) makes my mind hurt.
Trying to envision what the Universe looks like from the 'outside' (if that is even possible) makes my mind hurt.
the whole thing can make one dizzy
energy diversity, transfer, conversion and propagation is what I am bugging out on right now
consider this
repeatedly strike 2 pieces of metal with increasing amounts of force and you will get sound+heat generation which will get louder which then will yield light all the way up the spectrum, the light generated will have signature absorption spectra, and to some degree the sound quality will have had a signature of the metal too. It's all waves though, except for the light, it can be experienced as packets as well as waves. and all this stuff is perfectly related to what happens in stars
PS: I am not really sure what he means by "vortex" but I loved the graphical depiction so much, I had to post it
it gets even trippier when you consider the distances through which the sun is acting on the planets , in order to drag them along it's galactic orbit
it gets even trippier when you consider the distances through which the sun is acting on the planets , in order to drag them along it's galactic orbit
I interpreted it as the orbit of solar system resembling a tornado and the sun being the center of the tornado.
He's right in the sense that most standard models show planets orbiting the sun on a two dimensional plane, when it is way more dynamic.
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Everything is relative... from the POV within the solar system things are relatively 2D and simple, but from a static point ouside the solar system (if such a thing even exists) the whole Milky Way is moving, which would yield some interesting paths
Its like looking at a person on Earth... from here you are just sitting still, but from the sun you are twirling around at least 2 axes of rotation which would make your trajectory pretty crazy.
Its like looking at a person on Earth... from here you are just sitting still, but from the sun you are twirling around at least 2 axes of rotation which would make your trajectory pretty crazy.
that would be descriptive but it does not mean much else to me
My imagination hasn't subscribed to the standard model for a long time but I so appreciate his rendering
the only thing cooler would be the ability to watch it to scale
I would expect the experience to be Einsteinian, as it should immediately reveal, in part,the mysterious beauty of the theory relativity in a visceral way.
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It is more dynamic, but not too mind numbing if you think of it this way. You take that 2-D system we all know, and flip it up 90 degress. Now move the plane forward. You can imagine a helical model now very easily. Basically the guy that made the video in OP isnt a physicist, and there are some untruths in it...Here's a GREAT article on this http://www.universetoday.com/107322/is-the-solar-system-really-a-vortex/I interpreted it as the orbit of solar system resembling a tornado and the sun being the center of the tornado.
He's right in the sense that most standard models show planets orbiting the sun on a two dimensional plane, when it is way more dynamic.
And also I saw your post earlier about what if the universe was like an organism. Well for one, atoms don't really resemble a solar system at all but there is so much past that...basically nah lol
C'mon breh I'm well aware of quantum mechanics vs relativity, so I never once claimed that atoms resemble orbits of galaxies. I am however fascinated at the shape of our observable universe and how it resembles a neuron.
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Oh...check that link out doe