The Heels in the Wrestling are lacking

[Notorioushnic]

Looking at the WWE roster today. There isn't really one heel that I want to see get their asses hand to them or makes me feel resentful to them. Remember hwo you wanted Savage to get at Jake for smacking liz and having his snake bite him? Or you cheered for Sting to KO Hogan for his 97 reign of terror or wanted to see someone stop the Dudley Boyz because they were big bullies who beat up every tag team and talked shyt while doing it? I dont get that with many of these wrestlers today



CM Punk, Shadow(He has potential), Henry(when he was there) are probably the only few but the rest of these guys are caught up in the crossroads and dont know how to really become hated. I beleieve limitations are whats hurting todays wrestlers from really being creative. I believe they should allow the wrestlers to have more creative freedoms in direction with their character and feuds. They gave HBK and Y2J the greenlight in 2008 and it remained as their best feud in years.

Dolph Ziggler is the one with the most potential. Having Punk disrespect the legends is the perfect way to go. I'll have Ziggler spitting and blowing his nose with Team Bring it Shirts, Come out to wearing Y2J's jacket and literally burn it afterwards like JBL did that spinner belt or

Let him spread his wings and kick Vicki to the curb, Have him literally run her down to the point where people would pitty her and envy him. I mean these guys gotta do something to stand above the pact to build some character

 

[I-Hate-You]

OG Bob & Bully

 

[Scotch Hall]

u one of the best posters on here, keep doing ya thing homie

 

[Notorioushnic]

u one of the best posters on here, keep doing ya thing homie

Thanks chico!

 

[Notorioushnic]

Justin Credible's 98-99 heel run>>>>>>80% of todays heels.

Bully Ray soaked up game from Heyman so you know he knows how to work the game

 

[Notorioushnic]

How do they expect heels to get over and they doing anti bully campaigns?

 

[Reggie]

It's because of the booking that the writers come up with. The heels can't get over when they never get clean wins over the faces but the faces can always overcome them no matter the situation. We just watched Del Rio pose basically no challenge to Sheamus for three straight PPV's. Who really thought he had a chance. Mark Henry's run up until the angle with Big Show was the best booking of a heel the E has done in years.

 

[Silkk]

03-05 HHH & 05 Jarrett made me wanna go out and take care of em myself

 

[Grifter]

Punk being a heel so far was at his best against Hardy(the only time he could really use the straightedge solo) and Cena being anti-establishment but its been going on for over a year with intervals that don't make you care when its picked back up.

 

[DANJ!]

Kinda wild, but the heel side of things has fallen off greatly since last year... last summer you had:

Punk right before the turn.
Miz still had heat.
Christian's heel turn was much needed and workin' out great.
Ditto for R-Truth.
Mark Henry was having the run of his career.
Cody Rhodes was on a roll and coming into his own with that psychotic shyt.
Del Rio was running that "destiny" shyt in the hole, but people cared enough to boo him.
Barrett was on his own and picking up the heat he lost with the Corre.
Ziggler was on the come up and starting to establish the #HEEL gimmick.

At that point, that was the strongest set of heels they'd had in a few years.But now? Not so much

Punk is heel again and doing his thing, even more with Heyman.
Ziggler is trying, but still needs something to get him there.
Cody has no personality and is now cocky heel #358869
Christian's a face again, for no apparent or logical reason.
Henry's coming back soon, so we'll see.
Del Rio is boring as fukk.
Miz needs a face turn ASAP.
R-Truth didn't need a face turn, but got it anyway. Blah.
Barrett is just coming back after being on a roll, so we'll see where it goes.

Then there's Sandow who's picking up steam, Big Show who's Big Show, and... Slater? Tensai? Cesaro? Mahal? Eh.

And I'm not counting Bryan because unless they do a switch move and keep him heel, he's practically a face at this point. Heels who get crowds to chant and don't get booed ain't really heels.

 

[Sierra Mist]

Well the heels ALWAYS lose. BOTH at PPVs and on the shows in between. YOu can't have heels be credible when they just job to Sheamus every week.

 

[CM_Burns]

Great thread, this might be the biggest problem in the business. For the E, that they always lose is a big thing, another is PG. ABove everything else though, the writers have just lost touch with what makes a good heel. "The fans are stupid!" and unconvincing cockiness aren't going to sell PPVs.

The idea is to make the fans think "I hate this guy, but I would never do anything because he'd obviously fukk me up". Most of their heels only get one of those two thoughts (if any).

It's not just that times have changed, Brock is a legitimate draw, selling ppvs, a bigger star than anyone on their roster (except Rock and Cena), and he was still getting mostly boos.

Getting more realistic about types of people/personality traits people hate/resent in real life would help. Someone who acts/looks like Dolph Ziggler in real life would just be somebody to laugh at and move on.

 

[Slystallion]

Yokozuna was one of the best heels ever. So was sgt slaughter. 97 Bret hart. The Rock when he first invented peoples champ stuff but then people started to like his confidence so it killed the heel aspect. Ric Flair might be best heel of all time. Hollywood as well...although I could never hate Hogan and rooted for him while he was hollywood.

A heel should feel like he is unstoppable and just be generally disliked...Cena makes a great heel usin that definition lol