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The France Thread: Oui Oui, Bonbons and all that bad stuff 🇫🇷
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From Wikipedia:
"Jordan Bardella was born on 13 September 1995 in Drancy, Seine-Saint-Denis as the only child in a modest family of Italian origin.[2][3] The maternal side of his family immigrated to France from Turin in the 1960s. His paternal grandmother, a native of La Ferté-sous-Jouarre, is also partly of immigrant origin, with an Algerian father who came to France in the 1930s in Villeurbanne working as a labourer in the construction industry.[4] Bardella grew up in rent-controlled housing in Drancy, and would later claim to represent "modest origins and the social fibre" in politics."
So Bardella is of an immigrant background. Yes, I know, whites aren't viewed as "immigrants." But he is partly Algerian.
Let's take a look at other major far-right/conservative/anti-immigrant European politicians:
- Geert Wilders is part Indonesian
- Alice Weidel is a lesbian with a dark-skinned Sri Lankan partner
- Eric Zemmour's parents were Arabic-speaking Jewish immigrants from Algeria
- Giorgia Meloni's only child was born out of wedlock
- Sahra Wagenknecht is half-Iranian (yes, I know she doesn't think of herself as "far right," but she is definitely playing to the anti-immigrant crowd)
and I haven't even gotten into the UK politicians like Sunak, Braverman, Patel, etc.
"Jordan Bardella was born on 13 September 1995 in Drancy, Seine-Saint-Denis as the only child in a modest family of Italian origin.[2][3] The maternal side of his family immigrated to France from Turin in the 1960s. His paternal grandmother, a native of La Ferté-sous-Jouarre, is also partly of immigrant origin, with an Algerian father who came to France in the 1930s in Villeurbanne working as a labourer in the construction industry.[4] Bardella grew up in rent-controlled housing in Drancy, and would later claim to represent "modest origins and the social fibre" in politics."
So Bardella is of an immigrant background. Yes, I know, whites aren't viewed as "immigrants." But he is partly Algerian.
Let's take a look at other major far-right/conservative/anti-immigrant European politicians:
- Geert Wilders is part Indonesian
- Alice Weidel is a lesbian with a dark-skinned Sri Lankan partner
- Eric Zemmour's parents were Arabic-speaking Jewish immigrants from Algeria
- Giorgia Meloni's only child was born out of wedlock
- Sahra Wagenknecht is half-Iranian (yes, I know she doesn't think of herself as "far right," but she is definitely playing to the anti-immigrant crowd)
and I haven't even gotten into the UK politicians like Sunak, Braverman, Patel, etc.
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Rightward shift after election could limit future EU climate policies — Reuters
A more rightward-leaning European Parliament will make it harder to pass ambitious EU climate policies, but the majority of Europe's current world-leading green policies are likely to stay put, lawmakers, officials and analysts said.
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I saw Le Republicans sacked their leader because he made a pact with the far right and obviously the snap election announcement. Not sure what else has happened on a work vacation rn
I wanted to make one but it was very specific of French politics so was not sure it was interesting. Anyway basically the landscape is like this (only the main parties from those European Parliament elections)
DEEP RED LEFT
- Unsubdued (Melenchon) - 10%
- Greens - 6%
- Socialist Party (Glucksmann) - 14%
CENTER
- Rebirth (Macron) - 15%
- Republicans (Ciotti) - 7%
DEEP BLUE RIGHT
- National Assembly (Le Pen) - 31%
- Reconquest (Marechal) - 6%
BROWN
There are like 30+ other parties but they all got less than 5% so they get no seats at the Parliament and they amount for the remaining 11% and span across the whole spectrum.
Now there is nobody with enough percentage to have an absolute majority so everybody need to make alliances :
- Macron wants to get votes from Socialists and Republicans for a social-democrat block.
- The left block wants to unite but the deeper reds and the lighter pinks can't bear each other at all
- Some in the blue right wants to unite with the brown right which has never been done historically as the Republicans are the legacy party of De Gaulle and the National Assembly is the legacy party of those who tried to assassinate him.
Today, the left managed to unite but overall their ceilings is probably around 35%. However Glucksmann who headed the Socialists campaign and somehow managed to get them their best election of the past 10 years got none of the requests he required and he'll have a public speech tomorrow.
For Macron's party, it seemed that only a select few were aware of the dissolution and that his own PM was one of the last to be made aware and like most, was against it. Many in his camp criticize the disslution but will publicly shut up so they can appear united at least until July 7th for the next election runoffs.
On Tuesday, Ciotti decided by himself to unite with the Browns but all the other heads of his party declined and want to oust him which they can't legally do before Friday. If an alliance was to formally be done, the Republicans will die as their only redeeming quality was to be "normal" conservatives. But they have slowly but surely been pressed between Macron going further right and Le Pen going less right.
Same day, Marion Maréchal who is Marine Le Pen's niece decided to ally with the National Assembly which she had left years ago because they weren't nationalist enough. However she did so behind the backs of her party and is basically trying a hostile takeover which she failed. She will likely rejoin her former party and her aunt as take her voters with her effectively killing Reconquest.
A whole mess
Had to read this 5 times and still don’t think I fully understand what’s going onI wanted to make one but it was very specific of French politics so was not sure it was interesting. Anyway basically the landscape is like this (only the main parties from those European Parliament elections)
DEEP RED LEFT
- Unsubdued (Melenchon) - 10%
- Greens - 6%
- Socialist Party (Glucksmann) - 14%
CENTER
- Rebirth (Macron) - 15%
- Republicans (Ciotti) - 7%
DEEP BLUE RIGHT
- National Assembly (Le Pen) - 31%
- Reconquest (Marechal) - 6%
BROWN
There are like 30+ other parties but they all got less than 5% so they get no seats at the Parliament and they amount for the remaining 11% and span across the whole spectrum.
Now there is nobody with enough percentage to have an absolute majority so everybody need to make alliances :
- Macron wants to get votes from Socialists and Republicans for a social-democrat block.
- The left block wants to unite but the deeper reds and the lighter pinks can't bear each other at all
- Some in the blue right wants to unite with the brown right which has never been done historically as the Republicans are the legacy party of De Gaulle and the National Assembly is the legacy party of those who tried to assassinate him.
Today, the left managed to unite but overall their ceilings is probably around 35%. However Glucksmann who headed the Socialists campaign and somehow managed to get them their best election of the past 10 years got none of the requests he required and he'll have a public speech tomorrow.
For Macron's party, it seemed that only a select few were aware of the dissolution and that his own PM was one of the last to be made aware and like most, was against it. Many in his camp criticize the disslution but will publicly shut up so they can appear united at least until July 7th for the next election runoffs.
On Tuesday, Ciotti decided by himself to unite with the Browns but all the other heads of his party declined and want to oust him which they can't legally do before Friday. If an alliance was to formally be done, the Republicans will die as their only redeeming quality was to be "normal" conservatives. But they have slowly but surely been pressed between Macron going further right and Le Pen going less right.
Same day, Marion Maréchal who is Marine Le Pen's niece decided to ally with the National Assembly which she had left years ago because they weren't nationalist enough. However she did so behind the backs of her party and is basically trying a hostile takeover which she failed. She will likely rejoin her former party and her aunt as take her voters with her effectively killing Reconquest.
A whole mess
Basically this was an election for the European Parliament but because Macron's party got a low score and the National Assembly (Le Pen's far right party) got its highest score ever, Macron decided to call snap elections for the French Parliament.
There are 7 parties that got more than 5% of votes which I listed above with the main figurehead associated to some of them.
If a party have more than 288 members in the Parliament, it has the absolute majority and can run the government and choose the Prime Minister.
Because no party got more than 50% in sunday's elections, it is thought that no party will be able to reach 288 winning candidates in the snap elections.
So every party is trying to form alliances to reach that threshold but those alliances are hard to get because of egos, past betrayals, current disdain and long term strategy
Most importantly, those snap elections have run offs and to get there, a candidate needs 25% of votes. That means that if a county vote 40% to leftists but 2 candidates both get 20%, neither of them goes through. Hence the alliances so a common candidate can run unopposed and hope for a chance to be elected.
Right now, only the left block agreed to an alliance but the figurehead of the Socialists (Glucksmann) had requirements and none were met.
Macron's party is trying to create a centrist block and that leftist alliance is bad news for him because he wanted to get candidates from the Socialists who are center-left. However Glucksmann being left dry might be good for him.
The right block is where the fukkery is happening. The boss (his name is Ciotti) of the Republicans (conservatives) unilaterally decided to form an alliance with the far right which is the first time it ever happens. It's a huge taboo here for historical reasons. His colleagues are against that and are trying to oust him.
On the far right, there are two main parties. One is National Assembly whose boss is Marine Le Pen and the other is Reconquest whose figurehead is Marion Marechal (who happens to be Le Pen's niece). Both parties hate each other so Marechal seeking an alliance is a backstabbing.
Finally, in most countries in the world (not in the US) the following colors are associated with political spectrums
- Red = left
- Blue = right
- Green = ecologists
- Brown = nationalists/fascists
And the deeper the color, the purer the ideology.
Hopefully it's a bit clearer
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France captain Mbappé urges young people to vote, warns against ‘extremes’ ahead of snap polls
France superstar and captain Kylian Mbappe on Sunday declared himself "against extremes and divisive ideas" when asked about crucial upcoming legislative elections in the country.
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France captain Mbappé urges young people to vote, warns against ‘extremes’ ahead of snap polls
France superstar and captain Kylian Mbappe on Sunday declared himself "against extremes and divisive ideas" when asked about crucial upcoming legislative elections in the country.
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Mid statement. Talking about "extremes" as if the extreme-right isn't the only real clear threat. He did say that he agrees with what Marcus Thuram said, but he should've been more explicit.
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Not sure why the tweet isn't showing. It says:
"Here are the numbers: - Far-right bloc (Le Pen's RN and Zemmour's reconquête): in the lead in 362 seats - Left-bloc ("Popular Front"): in the lead in 211 seats - Macron's party: in the lead in 3 seats. You read that right: 3 seats!!! And to top it off, none of these 3 seats are even in France, all of them are seats for French people abroad - Les Républicains (centre-right): in the lead in 1 seat It's an election in 2 rounds. The projections for the 2nd round are that left and far-right would battle it out in in 536 seats; Macron’s alliance would make the run-off in only 41 (!), and LR in just three."
The stakes are high in Macron’s gamble
There are doubts even in the French president’s own camp about the wisdom of calling snap elections
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I don't expect sportmen to take sides, and really we shouldn't care much about their opinions. It's a neutral statement yes.France captain Mbappé urges young people to vote, warns against ‘extremes’ ahead of snap polls
France superstar and captain Kylian Mbappe on Sunday declared himself "against extremes and divisive ideas" when asked about crucial upcoming legislative elections in the country.
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Replace x.com with twitter.com, that should work I think.x.com
Not sure why the tweet isn't showing. It says:
"Here are the numbers: - Far-right bloc (Le Pen's RN and Zemmour's reconquête): in the lead in 362 seats - Left-bloc ("Popular Front"): in the lead in 211 seats - Macron's party: in the lead in 3 seats. You read that right: 3 seats!!! And to top it off, none of these 3 seats are even in France, all of them are seats for French people abroad - Les Républicains (centre-right): in the lead in 1 seat It's an election in 2 rounds. The projections for the 2nd round are that left and far-right would battle it out in in 536 seats; Macron’s alliance would make the run-off in only 41 (!), and LR in just three."
The stakes are high in Macron’s gamble
There are doubts even in the French president’s own camp about the wisdom of calling snap elections
Regarding the article, it can't be accurate for several reasons :
- European elections are one offs, Legislatives ones have run offs so their dynamics are less straight forward.
- For legislatives elections, parties have different candidates for each county so they are more fleshed out unlike Europeans ones where you vote for a party which send their members to the Euro parliament following a set list of candidates.
- You cannot yet poll for the snap elections because the cut off for the choice of candidates was yesterday so we will have polls that make a bit more sense by the end of this week.