The France Thread: Oui Oui, Bonbons and all that bad stuff 🇫🇷

[Liu Kang]

Historically though, this seems like an improvement on the far rights overall performance. The abstention rate also suggests a generally unhappy electorate.

I think it's a bit more layered but you touch on good points :
- in France the incumbent president has a disadvantage so he historically does worse the second time around. Mitterand being the only exception as Chirac would have lost if the left hadnt been dumb in 2002.
- there is an overall far right wave in Europe which carried Le Pen too
- the abstention rate was high indeed so it makes Le Pen score less impressive and Macron's victory less important
- COVID made people more anti government because of the lockdowns and other restrictions and Macron became the face of it. He was already seen as arrogant/finance bro before but that tanked his image even more.

All in all, this result and Melenchon's overall performance aren't surprising.

You still think she may run again and win in 2027?

She may yes but she had also said it was her last run before so I can't say for sure. I do think that if she does, she would be dangerously close to win next presidential elections and those are the ones I'm worried about.

 

[SnugglesDaBear]

If Le Pen was a man I wonder if it would have made a difference.

 

[Liu Kang]

If Le Pen was a man I wonder if it would have made a difference.

Don't think it played a part to be frank.
She's not the first woman to get to the runoff as Royal was the first in 2007. The Le Pen name carries weight and she's been an elected politician for 20+ years. Voters are pretty much indifferent to her being a woman it seems because I've never read any analysis that stated her womanhood to be a drawback politically.

 

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[ADevilYouKhow]

The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers

How a French Bank Captured Haiti

Both must reads!

 

[Saucyqueen]

France is a beautiful place I’d love to visit someday, even tho Egypt is my first

 

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[88m3]

AP wilding

 

[mitter]

Any thoughts on the latest developments?

Paris police, protesters clash for third night over Macron's pension reform

Paris police clashed with demonstrators for a third night on Saturday as thousands of people marched throughout the country amid anger at the government pushing through a rise in the state pension age without a parliamentary vote.

www.reuters.com

 

[Rice N Beans]

Any thoughts on the latest developments?

Paris police, protesters clash for third night over Macron's pension reform

Paris police clashed with demonstrators for a third night on Saturday as thousands of people marched throughout the country amid anger at the government pushing through a rise in the state pension age without a parliamentary vote.

www.reuters.com

Better citizens than here, that's for sure.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

43 Years After Paris Synagogue Bombing, Canadian Man Is Found Guilty (Published 2023)

The attack killed four and injured dozens. But decades of false leads, a lack of evidence and legal wrangling delayed a trial.

www.nytimes.com

What do you guys make of this case @Liu Kang @mbewane @Techniec ???

 

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Macron’s action plan ‘rings hollow’ as critics take to the streets banging pots and pans

President Emmanuel Macron has given himself “a hundred days” to mend his broken rapport with the French, aiming for a rebound after a gruelling 100-day pension battle that has roiled the nation, infuriated…

www.france24.com

France kicks off push to ‘appease’ nation with row over immigrant welfare fraud

The French finance minister’s pledge to crack down on immigrants abusing France’s welfare system has triggered a fresh row in a country reeling from a bitter battle over pension reform, casting doubt…

www.france24.com

‘Macron resign!’: French president struggles to move on from pension controversy

French President Emmanuel Macron only just dodged another day of heckles and boos from opponents of the controversial pension reform. But a war of attrition aimed at the president and his government…

www.france24.com