The economic disparities within the AAPI community (Asians are not a monolith)

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Key takeaways:

  • More than 26 different nations make up the AAPI community. The broad generalization inherent in the AAPI categorization can obscure the economic reality for many groups within the AAPI community.
  • Disaggregated hourly wage data show that groups within the AAPI community face economic disparities. While AAPI average wages are close to the national average, many groups within the AAPI community lag behind.
  • Differing immigration paths and histories within the AAPI community influence which groups might be doing better economically in the United States today.

Why disaggregation matters

Figure A breaks down the AAPI population by country of origin. Examining disaggregated population sizes can tell us a few things. First, people with ancestry from a lot of different countries are subsumed within this broad categorization. Not even counting the “other” Asian American and Pacific Islanders, more than 26 different nations—each with their own distinct culture, history, and demographic pattern—make up the AAPI group. The broad generalization inherent in the AAPI categorization can have serious implications for economic policymaking as well as budget and resource allocation.

Second, averages and estimates for the AAPI population as a whole will be weighted upwards by the largest racial groups. For example, Chinese Americans, Indian Americans, and Filipino Americans make up over half of the entire AAPI category in terms of population. This upward biasing can yield overall figures that are not representative of the entire AAPI population, nor the countries of origin represented in that catch-all.

What this means in practice is that aggregate economic statistics show AAPIs to be doing relatively well economically. For example, in May 2022, the seasonally adjusted unemployment rate for Asians (not including Pacific Islanders) was 2.4%, significantly lower than the national rate of 3.6%. Similarly, the median household income for Asian Americans as a whole was $16,000 higher than the national figure. While this accurately shows that many Asian Americans are economically secure, this is not the whole story.

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Economic inequality within the AAPI community today

Indeed, our calculation of hourly wages for the disaggregated community shows us that groups within the AAPI community face economic disparities, both relative to the U.S. population as a whole and the AAPI population as a whole. Figure C shows average hourly wages for full-time, year-round workers. While the AAPI average is close to the national average, we can see just how many groups within the AAPI community lag behind. For example, people of Bhutanese descent were paid hourly wages ($15.36) that are just half the national average.


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Understanding the differences within the AAPI population can help advocates and policymakers better address the economic challenges different groups face. The economic circumstances and policy solutions required vary regionally and by state as well, given differing immigration patterns. Recognizing that the AAPI community is very diverse and does not all experience the labor market and economy in the same way is paramount to making sure specific populations aren’t left behind. Policymakers must look beyond and behind the aggregate “Asian” statistics to truly understand the scope of the economic disparities.

Asian Americans have been facing staggering levels of xenophobic violence in the wake of the pandemic and economic recession. Sadly, this scapegoating and terror is not new, as anti-Asian violence has peppered American history, especially in periods of great economic upheaval and backlash. In the past, institutions have responded and reacted with policies entrenching systemic racism, from the Chinese Exclusion Act, the Alien Land Laws, the Supreme Court decision Korematsu vs. United States, and more. We have an opportunity now to do things differently, and to celebrate and honor the contributions of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders in the United States. Our legislation and policies can push for economic mobility and boost wages and ensure that all Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders can achieve economic prosperity. AAPIs, who claim ancestry from over 20 nations across the globe, helped create the America and the American Dream we know today; our economic policies must ensure that they are all able to achieve it.
 

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the distribution of asian groups is always weird to me outside of indian and chinese which we are both on paper and IRL the most prominent. filipinos being 3rd is weird because i feel like i don't encounter them outside of CA, Vietnamese being above Korean also feels weird because I feel like Koreans are more prominent, but I know the south has big Vietnamese communities in addition to CA, so I guess that's why. Also feels like there are more Thai people maybe since their food is b*stardized in every city. And I knew hella Japanese kids in elementary but feel like I haven't met any others since except for business school.

anyways, you'd have to live in a heavily asian area to encounter most the SE asians and PIs who are living hard, other wise east and south asians are killing it
 

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Filipinos and Viets doing better than Japanese? :patrice:

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Jay Caspain Kang, an NY Times writer, had a great interview about this topic a few weeks ago on Woke Bros.



It starts around the 10 minute mark on Asians not being a monolith and the origins of this thinking came from and why its harmful.

Even Chinese, Korean and Japanese communities, aren't the same or have the same mindset and it comes down to when those families came to this country.
 
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Filipinos and Viets doing better than Japanese? :patrice:

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Not hard to believe at all. I grew up in Australia and went to school with a lot of Asians.The Japanese kids grew up with money and didn’t give a damn about studying at all, yet the Vietnamese kids were mainly first generation immigrants so their parents pushed them to study. So I can definitely see it.
 

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people outside of california just dont encounter them outside of certain contexts - college student, doctor, ethnic restaurant worker. in california, you can definitely see class stratification and how it ties to the different ethnicities within AAPI.

there are some industries outside california that do have clusters of asians - electronics manufacturing has large numbers of vietnamese and filipinos no matter what state it is located in, but many of those people do not fukk with anything outside of work that isnt "asian", so you rarely see them around town. if you do, like an asian at a BBQ restaurant, it will be the filipinos.
 

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people outside of california just dont encounter them outside of certain contexts
It’s a coastal thing

you see a variety of Asian peoples on the coasts. Nationalities and class levels.

You see one type in the middle of this country.

But a lot of them are not that “model minority“ myth bullshyt.
 

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Filipinos and Viets doing better than Japanese? :patrice:

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Japanese are slowly being acculturated and like 4th/5th generation now so they're moving closer to US average.

Whereas Filipinos and Vietnamese are still more recent immigrants so they're still more cherry-picked for education or income potential.
 

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Japanese are slowly being acculturated and like 4th/5th generation now so they're moving closer to US average.

Whereas Filipinos and Vietnamese are still more recent immigrants so they're still more cherry-picked for education or income potential.
That's the thing. A Japanese person/family who came before the 1965 immigration act is different from someone who came after. Different experiences with racism, etc.
 

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Asian community groups are fighting really hard to unwind police reform in NYS and enable white supremacy

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Yeah aapi is weird to be lumping together so many different groups. Even within the Chinese community there are so many differences. Immigrants vs American born, ethnic and language differences, huge disparity in economics.
 
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