The Detroit Situation

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A mural entitled “Slave Labour” that was removed from a location in London’s Wood Green sold for more than 750,000 pounds ($1.1 million) in June,
:rudy: I bet.....

anyway, It can't be that bad in Detroit... There are at least 50 nations worth less.... I mean Detroit owes 11 bill in debt... Congo is only worth like 30 Billion gdp on a good year.
 

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:rudy: I bet.....

anyway, It can't be that bad in Detroit... There are at least 50 nations worth less.... I mean Detroit owes 11 bill in debt... Congo is only worth like 30 Billion gdp on a good year.

It's crazy how low most gdp's are in Africa... I think a lot of money is being siphoned out legally and illegally though...
 

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No Banker Left Behind
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
The Detroit bankruptcy case has been cast as a contest between bondholders and pensioners that can be resolved only by shared sacrifice.

In principle, we have no problem with that, though in practice, the pensioners’ fair share will have to take into account their extreme vulnerability: Public pensions are not federally insured and many municipal retirees do not receive Social Security.

What we do have a problem with is shared sacrifice that does not seem to apply to the big banks that abetted Detroit’s descent into bankruptcy.

Last month, just days before its bankruptcy filing, Detroit reached its first settlement with creditors. The settlement was with UBS and Bank of America, and though the precise terms will not be nailed down until the bankruptcy judge weighs in, Detroit is set to pay an estimated $250 million to terminate a soured derivatives transaction from 2005.

The derivatives, known as interest-rate swaps, were supposed to protect Detroit from rising interest payments on a chunk of its variable rate debt. The banks would pay Detroit if interest rates rose, and Detroit would pay the banks if rates fell. By 2009, both interest rates and the city’s credit rating were falling, forcing Detroit to pay the banks some $50 million a year and to pledge roughly $11 million a month in casino-tax revenue as additional collateral.

In the settlement, Detroit will keep the casino-tax revenue. It will also reduce its debt load, according to city officials, because the banks have agreed to a discount of as much as 25 percent off what they are owed. But the haircut doesn’t mean that the banks will suffer. They have already made money on the swaps; the true extent of any discount will not be known until the deal is finalized.

This much is clear:

■ The banks’ 25 percent hit is nothing compared with the city’s suggested 90 percent cut to the pensions’ unfunded liability — which will result in benefit cuts that would be disastrous in both human and political terms and that the State of Michigan must prevent from happening.

Municipal officials are prey for Wall Street. The Dodd-Frank financial reform law called on regulators to establish “enhanced protection” for municipalities and other clients in their dealings with Wall Street, but the Securities and Exchange Commission has not yet completed rules, while the Commodity Futures Trading Commission’s rules are so weak as to virtually invite the banks to exploit municipalities.

■ The special treatment banks receive when debtors are in or near bankruptcy is unfair and economically destabilizing. Detroit’s agreement with the two banks requires court approval, but, in general, swap deals by banks are not subject to the constraints that normally apply in bankruptcy cases; in effect, the banks are paid first, even before other secured creditors and certainly before pensioners. That privilege, dating to the heyday of derivatives deregulation in the 1990s and 2000s, is destabilizing because the assurance of repayment fosters recklessness.

Detroit’s problems are a reminder of broader challenges, identified but still unmet: protecting pensions; protecting municipalities from Wall Street; and, at long last, revoking the obscene privileges of banks that allow them to prosper on the failings of others.
 

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"fixing" Detroit is simple, just make people feel like you care and are taking care of them.

This is a conversation I have had with people regarding immigrants and people that are low wage earners as well. This shyt is not rocket science.

If you go somewhere and you are not:

A - Financially invested

B - Emotionally invested

Then what are you gaining by keeping the streets clean/safe? If I eat a bag of Doritos on the street, what incentive do I have of walking all the way to the corner of the street to dump it in the trash bin? None, I can dispose of my garbage right here and keep it moving. You also factor in that most of Detroit were hard working individuals who also have to deal with brutal winters and in the end get shyt on by the government, what do you think is going to happen over time?

Sure I am being facetious, but the underlying message holds true for most. Why go through the effort of taking care of my city, when my city is not taking care of us? The schools are abandoned, the cops show up very late, there is garbage and debris everywhere, the lights are out, abandoned buildings being set ablaze by people who have nothing to lose.

It just has to start with 1 block near "Ground Zero" which I would say near the Packard Plant...work from there and expand out. That is the only way you will notice real change. I think it will take 10 strong individuals to do it and I am willing to get together with people who won't accept failure to get it done. Financially motivated is not the answer when taking on a project like this initially and in fact you will be losing money at first. It has to be about results, everything else comes later.

I realize I am not going into the financial issues of the city, thats for another post.
 
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"fixing" Detroit is simple, just make people feel like you care and are taking care of them.

This is a conversation I have had with people regarding immigrants and people that are low wage earners as well. This shyt is not rocket science.

If you go somewhere and you are not:

A - Financially invested

B - Emotionally invested

Then what are you gaining by keeping the streets clean/safe? If I eat a bag of Doritos on the street, what incentive do I have of walking all the way to the corner of the street to dump it in the trash bin? None, I can dispose of my garbage right here and keep it moving. You also factor in that most of Detroit were hard working individuals who also have to deal with brutal winters and in the end get shyt on by the government, what do you think is going to happen over time?

Sure I am being facetious, but the underlying message holds true for most. Why go through the effort of taking care of my city, when my city is not taking care of us? The schools are abandoned, the cops show up very late, there is garbage and debris everywhere, the lights are out, abandoned buildings being set ablaze by people who have nothing to lose.

It just has to start with 1 block near "Ground Zero" which I would say near the Packard Plant...work from there and expand out. That is the only way you will notice real change. I think it will take 10 strong individuals to do it and I am willing to get together with people who won't accept failure to get it done. Financially motivated is not the answer when taking on a project like this initially and in fact you will be losing money at first. It has to be about results, everything else comes later.

I realize I am not going into the financial issues of the city, thats for another post.

packard plant is in the middle of the slums....not even a hood.... but the actual slums bro

imo they have already started improvements on the main parts of detroit

detroit been fukked up for years...i actually think its on its way up but thats just me :manny:

its the residential areas thats fukked up...the average person living here not seeing whats goin on in front of them ...all they hear is bankrupty and crime
 
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