The Coli: Higher Learning Podcast 16AUGUST2021
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OfTheCross
Veteran
Having had a night to think about it...I think that our occupation was the failure much moreso than our withdrawal.
If he had been better occupiers we wouldn't be in this position of receiving short-term media blow back and risking possible long-term terrorists attacks against us.
If he had been better occupiers we wouldn't be in this position of receiving short-term media blow back and risking possible long-term terrorists attacks against us.
Explain?
What should we have done differently and how do you believe it would have affected the outcome?
theres a conversation as people are assembling but before we start recording. those are usually the best conversations actually lol
Good convo as always -
Afghanistan -
The pullout isnt going as well as we all hoped, but at the same time, Im really not sure what we could have done differently. It's very clear the Afgahn military was going to fold immediately. The media's coverge of this has been garbage. All the sudden people are concerned for the Afghan people. No one cared when Obama was bombing civilians, or when Trump increased bombings that resulted in like 300% more civilian casualties. Women's rights have barely improved overall. Probably more so in pockets in Kabul. Whoever said there's no collective state nailed it. It's country of disparate farmers, herders and tribes that are loyal to their group, not the larger nation of Afghanistan. Also think we should accept millions of refugees, not thousands.
Lizzo & Osaka -
It's not comparable at all. Osaka is all anxiety based on the pressures of facing the press. Lizzo has to deal w a shytload of a$$holes. She shouldnt have to, but that's the reality we live in. Not being so online would probably work wonders for her mental health. Hopefully both have good therapist. People love to tear others down. People just love to tear others down. I just think Lizzo needs to protect herself a little more and not be so candid all the time. On one hand it's admirable she's being real about her vulnerabilities, but on the other she's gotta take care of #1 a little more
As far as fitness goes - it's cultural. Europe and north america, a chubby woman is unattractive. Parts of Africa, Paciifc Islanders, parts of China, its seen as attractive.
I'll confirm whomever said nutrition contributes to height. There have been numerous studies that have shown height is connected to nutrition. The average height in the USA shot up as food production allowed people to move away from subsistence farming. ect.
Afghanistan -
The pullout isnt going as well as we all hoped, but at the same time, Im really not sure what we could have done differently. It's very clear the Afgahn military was going to fold immediately. The media's coverge of this has been garbage. All the sudden people are concerned for the Afghan people. No one cared when Obama was bombing civilians, or when Trump increased bombings that resulted in like 300% more civilian casualties. Women's rights have barely improved overall. Probably more so in pockets in Kabul. Whoever said there's no collective state nailed it. It's country of disparate farmers, herders and tribes that are loyal to their group, not the larger nation of Afghanistan. Also think we should accept millions of refugees, not thousands.
Lizzo & Osaka -
It's not comparable at all. Osaka is all anxiety based on the pressures of facing the press. Lizzo has to deal w a shytload of a$$holes. She shouldnt have to, but that's the reality we live in. Not being so online would probably work wonders for her mental health. Hopefully both have good therapist. People love to tear others down. People just love to tear others down. I just think Lizzo needs to protect herself a little more and not be so candid all the time. On one hand it's admirable she's being real about her vulnerabilities, but on the other she's gotta take care of #1 a little more
As far as fitness goes - it's cultural. Europe and north america, a chubby woman is unattractive. Parts of Africa, Paciifc Islanders, parts of China, its seen as attractive.
I'll confirm whomever said nutrition contributes to height. There have been numerous studies that have shown height is connected to nutrition. The average height in the USA shot up as food production allowed people to move away from subsistence farming. ect.
Last bit at the end about should we have gone , and everyone was on board.
It's because we were lied to with faulty intelligence! The government worked w the media to manufacture consent. 20/20 hindsight is absolutely valid.
Props to Barbara Lee, the only person in congress to vote no.
It's because we were lied to with faulty intelligence! The government worked w the media to manufacture consent. 20/20 hindsight is absolutely valid.
Props to Barbara Lee, the only person in congress to vote no.
You mean i could have been 6 foot gang with a healthy diet?
Wasnt Bernie a no too?
5'9You're a midget?
... and from what im hearing, eating more vegetables could have gave me that 3 inches
#feelsbad
OfTheCross
Veteran
We failed to clearly define our objective and what victory would be.Explain?
What should we have done differently and how do you believe it would have affected the outcome?
Bush is on video saying that everyone goes into Afghanistan, looks good for the first few years, and then end up defeated in the long-run.
The Taliban been said to us..."you may have the clocks, but we have the time.."
nikkas on both sides knew how this movie was going to end.
We also failed because we kept lying to ourselves and the public. We BEEN knew that these security forces couldn't be trained and fought like shyt. We just kept kicking the can down the road.
If we were being honest with ourselves, we would've set the expectation that the Security Forces were going to get overran quickly, as we already knew they were trash.
And we would've began some kind of refugee program months, or years ago in concert with other nations to get everybody out that wanted to get out.