The benchmark for elite WR use to be 14 - 15 yards per catch.

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Is that still relevant?

Career YPC

Jerry Rice - 14.8
Randy Moss - 15.6
T.O. - 14.8

So those are the mount rushmore of WR's.

Michael Irvin - 15.9
Julio Jones - 15.2
Calvin Johnson - 15.9
Isaac Bruce - 14.9
AJ Green - 14.8
Dez Bryant - 14.0
OBJ - 14.0
Steve Smith - 14.3
Steve Largent - 16.0

SO now you have these other WR's with TE level ypc.

Larry Fitzgerald - 12.4
Marvin Harrison - 13.2
Chris Carter - 12.6
Antonio Brown - 13.4
Wes Welker - 11.0
Michael Thomas - 11.7
Andre Johnson - 13.4

Top TE's

Tony Gonzalez - 11.4
Antonio Gates - 12.4
Shannon Sharpe - 12.3


So, I don't really look at catches, because of how offenses pass way more than they did in the past.

If you're not averaging at least 14 ypc, I don't consider that WR to be an elite game breaker. More of a system WR.

And yes, I don't consider Larry Fitzgerald elite despite his career numbers since he only hit 14 ypc only 3 times in his career, and one year he averaged less than 10 ypc

 

[CBalla]

Is that still relevant?

Career YPC

Jerry Rice - 14.8
Randy Moss - 15.6
T.O. - 14.8

So those are the mount rushmore of WR's.

Michael Irvin - 15.9
Julio Jones - 15.2
Calvin Johnson - 15.9
Isaac Bruce - 14.9
AJ Green - 14.8
Dez Bryant - 14.0
OBJ - 14.0
Steve Smith - 14.3
Steve Largent - 16.0

SO now you have these other WR's with TE level ypc.

Larry Fitzgerald - 12.4
Marvin Harrison - 13.2
Chris Carter - 12.6
Antonio Brown - 13.4
Wes Welker - 11.0
Michael Thomas - 11.7
Andre Johnson - 13.4

Top TE's

Tony Gonzalez - 11.4
Antonio Gates - 12.4
Shannon Sharpe - 12.3


So, I don't really look at catches, because of how offenses pass way more than they did in the past.

If you're not averaging at least 14 ypc, I don't consider that WR to be an elite game breaker. More of a system WR.

And yes, I don't consider Larry Fitzgerald elite despite his career numbers since he only hit 14 ypc only 3 times in his career, and one year he averaged less than 10 ypc

Anyone who watched Marvin play knows he was a dog

Stop lettin them numbers mean everything to you

 

[MikelArteta]

so getting a first down is bad?

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Anyone who watched Marvin play knows he was a dog

Stop lettin them numbers mean everything to you

I'm only going by what Michael Irvin said in the past

I grew up on 80's and 90's NFL. SO to me it's relevant.

And I'm not saying Marvin Harrison wasn't good, but he's Tier 2.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

so getting a first down is bad?

What separated Elite WR's from 2nd or 3rd options and TE's use to be YPC.

If you're YPC is like below 12 or 13 yards, it means, you're not making big plays.

 

[CBalla]

This is some dumb ass shyt tbh
These analytics “i never played ball” ass nikkas ruin sports

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

This is some dumb ass shyt tbh
These analytics “i never played ball” ass nikkas ruin sports

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

Benchmark is td

Rice 200 +
Moss 156
T o. 153

 

[BucciMane]

Terrible thread.

So, a player like Antonio Brown that is a great short route runner and knows where the sticks are on a 3rd and four, is going to get penalized because he made a four yard reception?

 

[Floyd Pinkerton]

Damn breh, you're on a serious posting cold streak @Ethnic Vagina Finder.

 

[Regular_P]

I'll allow it.

 

[mastermind]

NGL, I agree with this @Ethnic Vagina Finder

 

[jetflyinglimousineriding]

Jarvis Landry in Miami would get all kinds of praise for having the most receptions in the first X amount of games/seasons to start a career, but his YPC was

 

[Ghpstface]

Are they moving the chains on 3rd & long and scoring touchdowns? That's all I'm really concerned with.

 

[KneeGrow.]

Design of the offense, responsibility within the offense, offensive line play, quality of quarterback; all can have a significant impact on a wide receiver's YPC.

So nah this ain't the mark to use.