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I've been saying it on here. Might call them dumb asses at 105.7 to get it on the airways. Ravens cant afford to lose baby Zeus and expect to win.

The strength of this offense is the running game. If you're going to invest anywhere, it's gotta be offensive line, running backs and of course Lamar.

IMO, the running game would be better if they got a more balanced tightend. Andrews isn't a dynamic blocker. His receiving skills are extraordinary, but this offense would be better with a more dynamic blocking tightend with above average receiving skills. If Andrews wants big money, he's gonna have to go. If nothing else, the Ravens have had no problems drafting and developing tightends. They will find someone else.

Tightends like Hurst, OJ Howard and maybe Kyle Pitts (Florida) would be prototypical for what this team wants to do offensively.

Anyway, they need to build this offensive line asap.

This was their year to win and it didn't happen.

They're gonna be slightly rebuilding defensively (OLB/Edge), so they need to make sure they have the offensive line and the offense legit to help keep that defense off the field and fresh.
 

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LaCanfora is reporting that the Ravens have given Orlando permission to seek a trade...gotta take it with a grain of salt considering dude has been known to make shyt up

Hes saying it was his dads dream for him to play LT so it looks like were gonna lose him



so far I've seen the Colts,Jags,Rams,and Seahawks names pop up today in Orlando rumors

Rams and Seahawks dont have 1st round picks so i dont see trades to those teams happening

the Jags are interesting cause they have the Rams 1st round pick(25th overall) and the 1st pick in the 2nd round(33rd overall)

I'd take those 2 picks for Orlando
 
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, Zeus Jr. will get traded to DC. They lost Trent Williams and need his replacement. Also, I heard Orlando said he wanted to be traded within the division. We know that's not gonna happen, so DC is the next best place. Yearly preseason games, if they have a preseason, and he gets to stay/visit the area if that was his intention while also showing the Ravens what he could've been.

Ravens should get Sweat or Allen, but most likely Sweat and a 2nd round pick in the trade. DC has a plethora of pass rushers now and a lot of draft capital going into the off season.

This move makes the most sense to me and is a win win for both sides.

I would like EDC to finesse them for a 1st, McLaurin, Sweat and maybe a draft pick for next year, but a young pass rusher and draft pick is more realistic to me.
 

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, Zeus Jr. will get traded to DC. They lost Trent Williams and need his replacement. Also, I heard Orlando said he wanted to be traded within the division. We know that's not gonna happen, so DC is the next best place. Yearly preseason games, if they have a preseason, and he gets to stay/visit the area if that was his intention while also showing the Ravens what he could've been.

Ravens should get Sweat or Allen, but most likely Sweat and a 2nd round pick in the trade. DC has a plethora of pass rushers now and a lot of draft capital going into the off season.

This move makes the most sense to me and is a win win for both sides.

I would like EDC to finesse them for a 1st, McLaurin, Sweat and maybe a draft pick for next year, but a young pass rusher and draft pick is more realistic to me.
I wouldnt take Sweat and a 2nd for Orlando

if Washington doesnt want to give up their 1st then they gotta give up 2 2nds and Sweat :yeshrug:

the Jags make the most sense to me.They have the picks,young pass rushers,and young WRs to make the trade.Plus their LT is a free agent and really aint shyt

they need to upgrade the position to protect Trevor Lawrence

If the Jags want him i dont see any other team that can offer a better package
 

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I wouldnt take Sweat and a 2nd for Orlando

if Washington doesnt want to give up their 1st then they gotta give up 2 2nds and Sweat :yeshrug:

the Jags make the most sense to me.They have the picks,young pass rushers,and young WRs to make the trade.Plus their LT is a free agent and really aint shyt

they need to upgrade the position to protect Trevor Lawrence

If the Jags want him i dont see any other team that can offer a better package

You might be on to something with the Jags. I suspect that atleast 1 of their former Raven hires is going to get in their GMs ear if it hasn't already happen.

I'd just like to see the Ravens move up more than 2 spots, Jags currently hold 1 and 25 in the first round.

Only thing going against the Ravens is that this draft is deep at OT. Orlando is a two time pro bowler, but some teams might look to the draft to secure their LT. It would be cheaper for the next 4-5 years vs 1 year with Orlando.
 
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Mock Draft 2.0 For this draft, I included all the Ravens current picks going into the draft.

No. 27 Joseph Ossai DE/OLB (Texas)



While suiting up for the Longhorns, Ossai started in 24 of the 36 games that he participated in. Possessing a long frame that still has room to grow, he’s an edge rusher that’s still figuring out how to utilize his present tools. Because of his natural athleticism, he spent time seesawing back and forth between off-ball linebacker and defensive end. As a result, he was unable to find his comfort zone while experimenting with both positions. It wasn't until his final season at Texas where he settled in as a true edge rusher. Showing more comfort from the stand-up position, Ossai is an explosive mover and contains lots of enthusiasm throughout multiple parts of his game. A motor that stays flaming hot, he’s able to positively impact plays even if they’re not intended in his direction. As a natural playmaker, he has a knack for being a turnover creator that can get the offense the ball back at crucial moments in games. Having powerful hands, he’s a reactionary rusher that still has room to grow as an initiator with his pass rush moves. Still figuring out how to diagnose and attack run game concepts, he’s continued to improve with the more reps that he’s experienced at a single position. Ossai is raw in pass coverage when asked to drop to certain spots and it’s an area that proves to be one of his biggest deficiencies.

Ideal Role: Ossai can align as a 3-4 outside linebacker that is used as a spot dropper in coverage. He’s also capable of putting his hand in the dirt as a 5-technique in a four-man defensive front.

Scheme Fit: 3-4 Outside Linebacker

No. 58 Creed Humphrey Center (Oklahoma)

Previously covered in Mock Draft 1.0

No. 98 Dyami Brown WR (North Carolina)

North Carolina wide receiver Dyami Brown was among the many dynamic playmakers featured in the Tar Heel offense over the last two seasons. In 2019 and 2020, Brown had 1,000 receiving yards in each season while collecting 20 receiving touchdowns and averaging more than 20 yards per reception. Brown is a terrific athlete and vertical route-runner that excels at getting deep where his burst to the football and ball skills led to big plays down the field. Because he’s such a good vertical receiver, it opens up a world of possibilities for him to snap off routes and get open in the intermediate areas of the field. Brown is an elite competitor who battles as a ball carrier, gives great effort as a blocker, and is fearless working the middle of the field. When it comes to growth areas for Brown, developing his release package and adding more functional strength are the most notable. In addition, he ran a simple route tree in college, so expanding his route tree will be necessary at the next level. Brown has the potential to become a solid No. 3/4 receiver at the next level for an offense that likes to air it out.

Ideal Role: Top-three receiver that plays both from the slot and out wide.

Scheme Fit: Air Coryell.

No. 125 Marvin Wilson DT (Florida State)

Marvin Wilson was a highly-touted high school recruit and had exciting flashes of next-level potential throughout his time at Florida State. He aligned primarily on the interior for the Seminoles but played some 5-technique in 2020. His best fit at the next level comes for an even front defense that features him on passing downs where he illustrates good hand usage, quickness, and urgency when rushing the quarterback. Wilson is a capable run defender but has some issues with anchoring and contact balance due to a top-heavy frame and narrow lower body. It’s apparent that Wilson has natural athleticism and power, but his body composition and playing with inconsistent leverage rob him of those qualities. He would be well-served to clean up his frame to allow his natural gifts to shine with more consistency. It’s clear that Wilson can take another step forward and develop into a balanced defender that is a featured part of an NFL defensive line rotation if everything comes together.

Ideal Role: Rotational defensive tackle.

Scheme Fit: 4-3, attack-style defense.

No. 155 Richard LeCounte Safety (Georgia)

Previously covered in Mock Draft 1.0

No. 188 Anthony Schwartz

Anthony Schwartz has exceptional proactive athleticism, as evidenced by his quickness, body control, and balance. He's a willing stalk blocker but is better off running the defender off. In the passing game, he is a threat due to his explosive speed to threaten a defense before and after the ball arrives. He is a home-run threat and defenders must account for his dynamic ability in the slot. He displays some physical toughness for being a “track guy” and would be a matchup problem in the slot.

Ideal Role: Slot receiver.

Scheme Fit: Vertical passing offense.
 
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Only thing going against the Ravens is that this draft is deep at OT. Orlando is a two time pro bowler, but some teams might look to the draft to secure their LT. It would be cheaper for the next 4-5 years vs 1 year with Orlando.
I don’t think this hurts us at all

offensive tackles have had one of the highest bust rates the last decade

its the reason why there isn’t many good tackles in the league

any smart team is gonna take the sure thing over gambling on a tackle in the draft
 

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Mock Draft 3.0

My first and second round picks unchanged from 2.0. The Ravens need to a pass rusher and an experienced dedicated center. I added some depth and developmental guys in the later rounds that could become impact players within 2-3 years.

No. 27 Joseph Ossai DE/OLB (Texas)

Previously covered in Mock Draft 2.0

No. 58 Creed Humphrey Center (Oklahoma)

Previously covered in Mock Draft 1.0

I'm not sure if the Ravens are getting compensated with pick 98 or 104. At first it was 98, but recently it's been 104. I'll go with 104 for now.

No. 104 Ar'Darius Washington FS (TCU) He is developmental and a bit undersized, but plays much bigger. He will lay the wood in run support. He has exceptional ball skills and coverage ability. He'll serve the Ravens well as the 3rd safety or potentially as a starter once the they realize that Chuck may know the defense, but he's limited in ability.

Although a smaller safety prospect, Ar'Darius Washington is a very physical player in all departments of his game. Possessing a fluid backpedal in zone coverage, he has a great eye for passing concepts and the exact plan of attack from offenses. His change of direction/hips are clean when transitioning in and out of his breaks. Washington can turn and run when asked to, even though the Horned Frogs incorporate lots of two-high and three-safety looks on the back end. Physicality as a run supporter shows up often and he’s often been able to save the day as the last line of defense. While not afforded opportunities to play it often except in the red zone, he’s shown to be adequate in man coverage, as he has the smoothness and athleticism to cover slot options. He's got ball skills galore and he attacks the ball out of the air. He's highly competitive at the catch point and many of his turnover opportunities have come from coverage awareness or following the eyes of throwers to take him to intended throwing locations. Washington’s eyes can get caught in the backfield often and he remains glued to play-action fakes for too long. He waits too long to see and diagnose plays, particularly deeper passes. This has resulted in routes getting by him and has left him playing catch up on recovery attempts. His lack of length shows up when attempting to get off blocks and fighting through the trash in order to get to the ball. His lack of height may make some teams hesitant as his measurements are below many previous thresholds for players at the position.

Ideal Role: Developmental free safety.

Scheme Fit: Free safety in zone-heavy scheme.

No. 131 Ben Cleveland OG/RG (Georgia) He's played primarily RG and has a ton of experience in a run first offense. He's a nasty blocker and should bring a bully mentality to the offensive line.

Ben Cleveland aligned at right guard for the Bulldogs' offense. He is an average athlete with regard to his lateral agility and body quickness. However, he is a nasty interior lineman with solid technique and hand placement. He comes off the ball and strikes in the run game. He gets vertical movement and also does a good job of being a finisher. In the passing game, he is difficult to bull rush due to his competitiveness, nasty demeanor, and functional strength. He can anticipate stunts and twists inside and knows when to come off his man.

Ideal Role: Prominent role players who could develop into a starter.

Scheme Fit: Power running scheme would be ideal.

No. 169 Jaylen Twyman DT (Pittsburgh) He looks like a potential sleeper in this draft. His production in 2019 was astonishing. However, he sat out 2020 which hurt his draft status. He reminds me of Aaron Donald when he was at PItt. Even though the Ravens have Madabuike and they're developing him into a 3/5 tech, I'd like to see them double down and create a package where Twyman and Madabuike are lined up inside. These two would wreck havoc on the interior rushing the passer and should result in a lot pressures/sacks for the OLB or themselves. Anyway, here's his scouting report.

Pittsburgh defensive tackle Jaylen Twyman emerged as a redshirt sophomore in 2019, collecting 41 tackles, 12 tackles for loss, and 10.5 sacks. While the production stands out, he still had plenty to prove on the field but opted out of the 2020 college football season so our last exposure to Twyman is his 2019 game tape. Twyman found success as a pass rusher by utilizing a push-pull and swim move, but he needs to add more to his repertoire to have success as a pass rusher in the NFL. Twyman is a quick athlete with good mobility but he lacks size and his frame is underdeveloped. It doesn’t appear he has ideal anatomical length, and when combined with his lean frame and inconsistent leverage, there are challenges both as a run defender and pass rusher. Twyman has appeal as an interior gap-shooter, but there is a notable developmental curve ahead of him to reach his ceiling in the NFL. He must develop his frame, get stronger, and expand his hand technique.

Ideal Role: Interior pass rusher.

Scheme Fit: 4-3 three-technique.

No. 184 Janarius Robinson Edge (Florida State) He's got a lot of potential and should develop into a dynamic pass rusher in the NFL with proper coaching. I suspect he will go higher than 184, but if he's there, the Ravens should def take him.

Florida State defensive end Janarius Robinson was a 4-star recruit that started for three seasons in college. While his production was modest, the entire Seminoles defense has underachieved as the coaching staff struggled to develop talent and use players to their strengths. With that said, the flashes from Robinson are exciting. Robinson has long arms, heavy hands, and a stocky build that was engineered to play on the edge in the NFL. He is a powerful run defender, smart processor, and has plenty of tools to become a more effective pass rusher. He has some really exciting flashes rushing the passer where his length, flexibility, rush variety, effort, and hand power shine. There is room for Robinson to round out his game by learning how to consistently apply his immense physical gifts on the field and deploy his rush plan quicker. Robinson has the skill set to start as a 5-technique in a 3-4 front but could very well also serve as a base end in a 4-3. Robinson is the type of prospect that screams better pro than college player as he gets the right coaching to help unleash his physical tools.

Ideal Role: Starting 5-technique or 4-3 base end

Scheme Fit: 3-4.

No. 211 Landon Young OT (Kentucky) He's played in almost the exact same system the Ravens like to run. His pass blocking ability hasn't really had a chance to be studied, but I suspect with proper coaching, it should improve. That's if it's even an issue.

PROS (+): Massive frame and offers plenty of power at the point of attack. Kentucky leaned heavily on the run game in 2019 and Young was a key asset as the team implemented a slew of power concepts and read options with Lynn Bowden playing quarterback. Shows sticky hands and effective punch power to create movement early in reps — often tasked with double teams and climbing off combo blocks to create clear avenues for his backs or quarterback to work. Teams that look to maul up front and create soft edges on the boundary for outside runs should find appeal in his game and he has the needed length and mobility to be sufficient in pass protection in the quick game.

CONS (—): Because of the one-dimensional style of play last season, you didn't get a great taste for his ability in pass protection — but against both Tennessee and Georgia there were instances where he was long-armed and collapsed with power rushes due to leverage issues. Will have issues with pad level due to his size and some stiffness in his hips and as he hinges to greet wide-angled rushers, you get a bit of a swinging gate that can open him up to inside counters. There will be growing pains in pass protection and offenses that implement deeper drops and longer snaps will likely lower his value.

I did a trade and picked up another pick for the Ravens. Williams should wind up getting drafted somewhere while Young may not. Young might get drafted depending on his tape and pro day. He's 6'7 and 305 which is usually enough for some team to kick the tires and see what he's got, but if he's undrafted, I think the Ravens should bring him into camp. Might actually work out because of his option and zone read experience.

TRADED No. 212 Marlon Williams WR (UCF)

After taking on a bigger role in 2019 which included 51 receptions for 712 yards and six touchdowns, UCF wide receiver Marlon Williams saved his best for last in 2020 when he collected 71 receptions for 1,037 yards and 10 touchdowns in just eight games. Serving as a big slot in the Knights offense, Williams is a physical receiver that has terrific hands, ball skills, and the ability to produce after the catch. He’s an elite competitor that battles for every inch with the ball in his hands and competes through contact, routinely coming down with catches in traffic. For Williams to produce at the next level, developing and expanding his route tree will be important, especially when comparing what he will be asked to do in the NFL to what was on his plate in college. Williams may not demand the volume of targets in the NFL that he had in 2020 at UCF, but for a team looking for size and vertical skills down the field—and a player who can also create space for himself after the catch—Williams is a perfect candidate for such a role.

Ideal Role: Big slot.

Scheme Fit: Spread.
 

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Haven't seen anything posted on this here. The salary cap is up from 175m to 180m for the 2021 season. If the Ravens do some restructuring or release a few guys, I believe they'll be no.10 in the league with available cap space.

FA should be interesting this year and we might see some "super teams" for the 2021 season. Hopefully one is the Ravens...I doubt it, but we'll see.
 
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