I gotta get like this guy
Anybody take piano lesson or have a history with keys?
Taking Piano Lesson
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I gotta get like this guy
Anybody take piano lesson or have a history with keys?
KillSpray
Don't be mad
I've been wanting to take piano lessons for the longest. I used to practice playing the keys following the exercises on YouTube and shyt like that, and after a couple of weeks you def start noticing the difference in your playing, but I could never keep it up 
How long you been going? Notice any results yet?
How long you been going? Notice any results yet?
I haven't taken any yet, just considering it.I've been wanting to take piano lessons for the longest. I used to practice playing the keys following the exercises on YouTube and shyt like that, and after a couple of weeks you def start noticing the difference in your playing, but I could never keep it up
How long you been going? Notice any results yet?
I've gotten half decent over the years as self taught, but sometimes I don't know what key or scale I'm using, or what chords I'm using.
it's weird. Through trial and error over years I've learned to recognize patterns on the keyboard and started to understand what can and can't be a scale, and what chords work with eachother.
The problem is when I fail I fail miserably
I played percussion in school so my history with keys is pretty limited. Never took any real lessons.
Its all muscle memory tho, once you get your fingers used to making certain motions you'll be A1.
I'm pretty sure I dont have to tell you to practice scales and chord progressions.
Edit: Download Piano Companion from the app store its pretty dope and it'll give you visual and audio of different chords and scales.
Its all muscle memory tho, once you get your fingers used to making certain motions you'll be A1.
I'm pretty sure I dont have to tell you to practice scales and chord progressions.
Edit: Download Piano Companion from the app store its pretty dope and it'll give you visual and audio of different chords and scales.
I did jazz band drum set and marching band snare drum in highschool/middle school. Think that's all I have that makes me decent at making beats.
I've gotten better on the keys over the years. I even had people ask me who taught me. But then I see videos like this.
I think I could accomplish getting that solo sequenced that he played.
But I'd have to break it into sections, fix some notes, and repeatedly practice each little part.
maybe that'd be a good exercise actually.
Another thought...
Sometimes I wonder if my naivety actually works to my advantage.
Because I'll try things a trained keyboardist would never consider
Sometimes I wonder if my naivety actually works to my advantage.
Because I'll try things a trained keyboardist would never consider
KillSpray
Don't be mad
I haven't taken any yet, just considering it.
I've gotten half decent over the years as self taught, but sometimes I don't know what key or scale I'm using, or what chords I'm using.
it's weird. Through trial and error over years I've learned to recognize patterns on the keyboard and started to understand what can and can't be a scale, and what chords work with eachother.
The problem is when I fail I fail miserably
Sheeeeit, maybe just reading up on some intro music theory or taking a quick online course on it would help. Learning how scales and chords work is def a huge boost, and you already got natural talent so it would only make you sharper.
Another thought...
Sometimes I wonder if my naivety actually works to my advantage.
Because I'll try things a trained keyboardist would never consider
I remember reading in a Scott Storch interview that he's better off that he never learned music theory through and through because his music would sound too technical. That always stuck with me especially given the nature of hip hop music. I'm actually to the point now where I'm like who gives a fukk if its "right" as long as it sounds good.
Ive got a few chords and scales intro to piano books and DVDs, Im just so spastic with my attention span it's tough
I'm like an idiot savant
KillSpray
Don't be mad
Another thought...
Sometimes I wonder if my naivety actually works to my advantage.
Because I'll try things a trained keyboardist would never consider
I used to think like that too, but I think your creativity is always gonna be the same, it doesn't matter what you learn. If anything learning theory could make you try even crazier shyt.
I've met musicians who have trained on instruments for years and could play whatever sheet music you put in front of them expertly but they can't compose an original tune to save their life. It's all about the creative spark, some people just don't have that.
KillSpray
Don't be mad
I remember reading once an article about the way music is taught, basically saying the way it's taught to younger people can kill creativity because there's such strict attention to form and all that. But that's a problem with the teaching method and not the actual knowledge. Basically the guy they were interviewing was saying, the way a musician should learn to play is the same way a child learns to talk: the child learns first by listening to adults who already mastered the language, then the child emulates, then the child attempts to converse with adults who provide encouragement, and the child develops their own relationship with the law gauge first, then years later in school, maybe at age 6 you start teaching them to read, about grammar rules, how to write. But the key thing, the child can already talk by the time he's learning g the rules.
Now imagine if you forced a child to learn to read and write before they know how to talk???
they'd end up a lot different, with a different relationship with the language.To me that explanation was the best I ever heard on why it's important to learn music theory, but learn how to have your own voice first. Then go back and learn the theory.
That's basically how I learned, by listening to what I love and doing my best to create itI remember reading once an article about the way music is taught, basically saying the way it's taught to younger people can kill creativity because there's such strict attention to form and all that. But that's a problem with the teaching method and not the actual knowledge. Basically the guy they were interviewing was saying, the way a musician should learn to play is the same way a child learns to talk: the child learns first by listening to adults who already mastered the language, then the child emulates, then the child attempts to converse with adults who provide encouragement, and the child develops their own relationship with the law gauge first, then years later in school, maybe at age 6 you start teaching them to read, about grammar rules, how to write. But the key thing, the child can already talk by the time he's learning g the rules.
Now imagine if you forced a child to learn to read and write before they know how to talk???
To me that explanation was the best I ever heard on why it's important to learn music theory, but learn how to have your own voice first. Then go back and learn the theory.
Replaying melodies from songs I love and stuff helps.
Like I find the key of my samples in like 2 minutes by just fukking with the keys. So I think I may have near pitch perfect hearing(meaning identifying notes correctly), which also helps.
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Veteran
pretty much taught myselff with my ears
Aje
All Madden
holmes, if you had perfect pitch it would take you five seconds to listen to a song and you wouldn't have to touch a piano to determine the key of a piece of music. I'm friends with several ppl who have perfect pitch (one who's a drummer - what a waste of perfect pitch) and it's hilarious how good they are at recognizing notes by ear...and how quickly -almost instantaneously - they identify.
I took a year of theory, a year of aural skills , and piano lessons. One issue with a typical music theory class I found as a hip-hop producer, was that we were learning theory from the 17th - 19th centuries. Learning counterpoint and whatnot. That's all well and good, but the more fun stuff happened in the late-19th centuries into the 20th c. Jazz theory could help one more (probably. I haven't taken it yet) but you would need that boring first year of theory as a foundation.
You essentially learn music theory and its rules so that you can break them.
Re: piano lessons: I loved it and learned some Chopin, Liszt, and even some Joplin. Learning scales is just a matter of practice - 21 of the conventional scales: A-G Major (7), A-G Nat. Minor (7), A-G Mel. Minor (7). And I guess you can learn the Harmonic minor and modes, too. Also, learning the correct fingering and posture can help.
Good luck!
I prolly misused the term perfect pitch.
Basically I can identify the notes with little to know effort from a sample etc. or replay a melody in usually seconds, but I can't just call out the notes with a keyboard.
I just don't know the actual scales I'm using or what the chords are called, or how to identify the key. I think the key is really just the root note right? the one the melody loops on?
All I really 'know' is the 12 notes.
But yea I can't hear a song and say that's c minor.
But I can replay that same song on a basic level real quickly.
But yea on the scale of things I SUCK at keys
Edit: for instance that beat where you said I might have a history with keys with the organs or whatever.
I just randomly played that shyt with no idea what I was playing exactly. I still don't know lo.