Supreme Court seems to signal they'll uphold the Tiktok ban

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Why doesn't TikTok have the same content on Douyin that the West has? Why do they let brain rot proliferate in the West while keeping it away from their own people?

Make a condition for operation removing the great firewall. If we can't operate freely in their domain, why should we allow them to operate freely in ours?

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/why-doesn-t-tiktok-have-the-sa-uDqrC4cWR7.MvfVkNCQiJg

TikTok and Douyin, while owned by the same parent company ByteDance, offer significantly different content and features tailored to their respective markets[1][3]. The Chinese version, Douyin, imposes stricter controls and promotes more educational content, especially for younger users, while TikTok in the West allows for more diverse and potentially addictive content[2][4].

## Content Differences

Douyin's content is tailored for the Chinese audience and excludes international content, while TikTok does not include China-based content[1]. Douyin favors educational and skill-improvement content, whereas TikTok leans more towards artistic and entertainment content[1].

## Restrictions for Young Users

Douyin implements strict measures for younger users:

- Users under 14 can only access child-safe content
- Limited to 40 minutes of use per day
- Cannot use the app between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.[6]

In contrast, TikTok in the West does not impose such restrictions, allowing users of all ages to access the same content[7].

## Algorithmic Differences

The algorithms for Douyin and TikTok are designed differently:

- Douyin's algorithm has been "toned down" to account for legal factors in China[9]
- TikTok's algorithm in the West has been described as more addictive, likened to "crack cocaine" for the brain[4]

## Potential Reasons for Differences

1. Government regulations: China has stricter censorship and content control measures[6].
2. Cultural differences: Content preferences vary between Chinese and Western audiences[1][9].
3. Strategic decision-making: ByteDance may be deliberately offering different versions to maximize revenue and success in different markets[9].

The contrast between Douyin and TikTok has led some to criticize ByteDance for promoting potentially harmful content in the West while protecting its domestic audience[2][4]. This discrepancy raises questions about the ethical implications of tailoring social media platforms to different markets and the responsibility of tech companies in managing the impact of their products on users' well-being.

Citations:
[1] Douyin vs TikTok: Same App? What are the Differences?
[2] Is TikTok different in China compared to the U.S.? A social media analyst compares it to opium and spinach
[3] Douyin vs TikTok: Decoding their similarities and differences
[4]
[5] Douyin and TikTok: all you need to know about their differences
[6] https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/24/tech/tiktok-douyin-bytedance-china-intl-hnk/index.html
[7] Is TikTok different in China? Here's what to know
[8] Why teenagers are deliberately seeking brain rot on TikTok | Psyche Ideas
[9] What's the Difference between Douyin and TikTok? Aren't they the

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i hope you aren't arguing for china style content moderation laws on which would infringe on americans right to free speech.

theres nothing stopping any company in america from delivering teh same content to users. in fact i'm pretty sure tiktok users can curate their feed to show content you approve of.

america is the free market proponent and china has never claimed to be that. american sacrificed it's principles for profit and chooses to do busieness with them despite the business environment there. america does business with many other countries that censor their internet too. america isn't demnadning anything from the saudi family regarding their censorship.

 

[bnew]

In America’s entire history from its founding to now, “free speech” has never and will never trump National Security concerns.

the concern the U.S congress admitted it couldn't prove?

 

[cyndaquil]

From this thread there's basically two camps

People who want tiktok to stay due to the information availability it has and the belief it provides uncensored news and information. And the income opportunities it presents for people. Ok thats a legitimate reason

Then there's the people who want it banned because it induces "brainrot" in the context of TikTok and short-form content, due to the overstimulation of the brain caused by constant exposure to fast, dopamine-inducing media leading to reduced attention span, distractibility, and difficulty focusing on longer tasks, mimicking ADHD-like symptoms and lowered cognitive abilities. It's designed to addict us.
This is also a legitimate reason.

No one in here seems to want it banned for the reason its actually being banned for. And the ones who are against it being banned see the ban as a pyrrhic victory for their opponents.
Both parties are right in a way.

 

[Mister Terrific]

 

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Honestly it wouldn’t shock me if the CCP bans Americans first

it actually in china's interest to wait for the u.s government to ban chinas apps and services because it brings them more in line with china's style of governance. it also whittles away at americas so called principles.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

i hope you aren't arguing for china style content moderation laws on which would infringe on americans right to free speech.

theres nothing stopping any company in america from delivering teh same content to users. in fact i'm pretty sure tiktok users can curate their feed to show content you approve of.

america is the free market proponent and china has never claimed to be that. american sacrificed it's principles for profit and chooses to do busieness with them despite the business environment there. america does business with many other countries that censor their internet too. america isn't demnadning anything from the saudi family regarding their censorship.

The Saudis aren't piping harmful and addictive content to American children.

China takes advantage of America's openness and freedom to damage it. See how they are sending spies disguised as students, for example. They shouldn't be allowed to do that. Either they play by the same rules or they can

As @Mister Terrific said, free speech has always had limits, even in the US. We cannot allow a foreign, adversarial government influence in our society.

Dying on the hill of "principles" is retarded when you're the only one playing by the rules. Democrats are learning this the hard way this political cycle.

 

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[Mister Terrific]

it actually in china's interest to wait for the u.s government to ban chinas apps and services because it brings them more in line with china's style of governance. it also whittles away at americas so called principles.

Not once in American history have we risked the health of our republic over vague notions of free speech. Nor is a foreign adversary actively engaged hostilities with the US been afforded the protection of free speech.

 

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The Saudis aren't piping harmful and addictive content to American children.

China takes advantage of America's openness and freedom to damage it. See how they are sending spies disguised as students, for example. They shouldn't be allowed to do that. Either they play by the same rules or they can

As @Mister Terrific said, free speech has always had limits, even in the US. We cannot allow a foreign, adversarial government influence in our society.

Dying on the hill of "principles" is retarded when you're the only one playing by the rules. Democrats are learning this the hard way this political cycle.

the content you claim they are piping to american children are made by american children and adults.

so the u.s government should treat china like it does cuba but it doesn't because they put profit above principles. :

 

[itsyoung!!]

While I do think foul play is among the ban

lets not pretend China doesnt have all America based social media apps banned prior to this...

 

[IIVI]

If we’re being real, most people don’t care about most of this stuff if they’re enjoying TikTok.

Additionally, the usual TikToker isn’t on Twitter as much as people think. A lot of people on Twitter, liking posts on Twitter are basically mad they can’t get anything going on TikTok or now Rednote. Most people are clout chasers and some who can’t make the leap are upset they can’t “go to the next level” and participate.

It takes a certain expertise or charisma to get traction on TikTok and a lot of people frankly don’t want to read a bunch of text, especially when the text is not accurate either. A lot of times Twitter feels “too indoors” for people on TikTok while insta/meta many people feel is very restrictive/manipulative and markety anyways.

I see a lot of people like this online, but they can’t control what people are going to do.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

the content you claim they are piping to american children are made by american children and adults.

so the u.s government should treat china like it does cuba but it doesn't because they put profit above principles. :

In the case of China, we need to meet their energy. If they're not going to play by the rules, fukk em.

 

[bnew]

In the case of China, we need to meet their energy. If they're not going to play by the rules, fukk em.

ok so fukkem, start advocating we cease all trade instead of chipping away at americans rights.

china isn't a free marklet proponent and the U.S knew that when they chipped their business there for decades. they are playing by america's rules, which is why america didn't change any laws about the way social media companies operate in this country.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I say give the American people what they want. They don't care about privacy or Chinese spying.

Let Tiktok stay and let China keep doing it's predatory practices

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

ok so fukkem, start advocating we cease all trade instead of chipping away at americans rights.

It's not about Americans rights, it's about China operating an unethical company and taking advantage of America's openness. If they want to operate their social media openly here, let us operate openly there.