SUPERMAN by James Gunn (Coming 2025)

[jwinfield]

The majority of comic book movies have done an "origin story"

Some of those movies were great, some were mediocre, some were trash.

An origin story isn't what makes a movie good or not.

 

[NinoBrown]

You can't do an origin better than Snyder did in 'Man of Steel' and there were people who complained about that too. That whole opening was really well done.

I'm good on seeing another origin and wasting time on it. Everyone knows where he came from.

Kal's parents facing oblivion to keep him out of harm's way along with Zimmer's score just can't be topped....

Lex Luthor planning plots on Supes aren't gonna cut in 2025...

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Seems you dont know the definition of a casual. A casual isnt some random person in the world. Your 45 yo dad who has never cared to watch a comic book movie or consume any comic based media isnt a casual. A casual comic/comic movie fan would know the origins of someone like superman/spiderman/batman etc already.

Casuals wouldve looked at Guardians of the Galaxyand been like "who the fukk are these ppl". Just like with the Creature Commando shyt, casuals were like "dafuq is that?" While the more hardcore ppl were excited.

But lets go back in circles again

The Batman had no issue with not covering his origins and the casuals didnt have a problem with it. You know why?
1. Casuals already know his origin
2. This is the big one - The writing was good.

Well if we gonna cut it all down, they definitely went over the Wayne's demise and what happened to them during the movie... shyt was the entire basis for the Riddler's mission... But yes.. Again. I'll give y'all that one. And Spidey... And let's imagine 3-4 more movies

The other 50 involved an introduction to the characters and their motivations and how they came to be and didn't get mashed up until 10 years later..


But I will not bring up this point again until the day after I watch the movie. It's either going to not matter or matter a whole lot and arguing ain't gonna help.. What struck me is him saying zero minutes will be attributed to his origin.. That doesn't say flashbacks or even a central point to the plot like The Batman... Just start right off in the middle of the universe with a bunch of people nobody knows talking to superman about a threat we have no idea why we should care about

 

[wire28]

Let’s just agree if the movie does poorly it’s because there was no origin and if it does well it was because there was no origin

 

[Json]

Well if we gonna cut it all down, they definitely went over the Wayne's demise and what happened to them during the movie... shyt was the entire basis for the Riddler's mission... But yes.. Again. I'll give y'all that one. And Spidey... And let's imagine 3-4 more movies

The other 50 involved an introduction to the characters and their motivations and how they came to be and didn't get mashed up until 10 years later..


But I will not bring up this point again until the day after I watch the movie. It's either going to not matter or matter a whole lot and arguing ain't gonna help.. What struck me is him saying zero minutes will be attributed to his origin.. That doesn't say flashbacks or even a central point to the plot like The Batman... Just start right off in the middle of the universe with a bunch of people nobody knows talking to superman about a threat we have no idea why we should care about

I mean your describing most action flicks.

We didn’t need to see Mad Max go over his origin again, we just started on Fury Road with like 10 characters and a fat villain we don’t know and fleshed it out.

John Wick was at the end of his career in the first movie and just piled on background without stopping.

Origin movies are good because everyone starts off on the same knowledge as the main character but I don’t think that makes it the only way to tell a character arc.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I mean your describing most action flicks.

We didn’t need to see Mad Max go over his origin again, we just started on Fury Road with like 10 characters and a fat villain we don’t know and fleshed it out.

John Wick was at the end of his career in the first movie and just piled on background without stopping.

Origin movies are good because everyone starts off on the same knowledge as the main character but I don’t think that makes it the only way to tell a character arc.

I'm talking comics... Where the audience needs to really care about somebody to go watch 3 solo movies, a teamup and 30 other movies to build a universe. They really gotta care about Tony Starks to go see 20 movies before crying in Endgame

Let’s just agree if the movie does poorly it’s because there was no origin and if it does well it was because there was no origin

I'll agree to that


Although I really do think that's how it's gonna pan out... "If they would have spent some time telling us who these people were, then maybe it wouldn't have been shytty......" "If they would have spent some time telling us who these people were, then maybe it would have been shytty"

 

[FromStLouis]

Let’s just agree if the movie does poorly it’s because there was no origin and if it does well it was because there was no origin

I've already staked out it doing well because a better actor, lighter supes, and a vastly better filmmaker.

Origin story?? What kinda idiot thinks Superman's success depends on an origin story??

We're already getting a Supergirl origin story and I can bet hers will be contrasted against his. And we'll probably see the destruction of krypton in her film - do we need it in two movies?

The DCU is a universe you have to know where to strike a balance.

 

[Trapperman Dave]

I'd agree... But he ain't doing that either.. The man said ZERO

I’m fine with that, it doesn’t need to be seen again now let’s say another 15 years later and a new Superman is casted sure do the origin then. As for the cramming of characters they may get a little exposition dump saying how they got started or something

 

[Trapperman Dave]

I came in here to comment about the supergirl casting being fantastic and can’t find the damn post cuz yall mfs blabbing for multiple pages

And we bout to blab some more

 

[Trapperman Dave]

You can't do an origin better than Snyder did in 'Man of Steel' and there were people who complained about that too. That whole opening was really well done.

I'm good on seeing another origin and wasting time on it. Everyone knows where he came from.

They complained because he showed clark being conflicted about his heritage which would be completely normal for a teenager. They just wanted him to be like I got powers when i grow up i wanna be a superhero cliche moment. They need to let go of the Reeves version

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Kal's parents facing oblivion to keep him out of harm's way along with Zimmer's score just can't be topped....

Lex Luthor planning plots on Supes aren't gonna cut in 2025...

Lex shouldn’t be in the forefront he needs to move like he does in young justice. I wouldn’t be mad if they plant seeds of them cloning characters

 

[CW99]

Gaurantee Superman fails DC has a stigma to it even before the Last DCU movies and that is Batman is the only one that sells.
Superman is boring he gets a new power every issue.
his supporting cast is annoying. No one gives a fukk about jimmy olsen, louis lane, whoever else they got. outside of generic ass doom and general zod no one else stands out.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Kal's parents facing oblivion to keep him out of harm's way along with Zimmer's score just can't be topped....

Lex Luthor planning plots on Supes aren't gonna cut in 2025...

Why wouldn't it? Snyder's superman was hard mid, don't try and fake like it was some masterpiece that can never be topped or outdone.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Gaurantee Superman fails DC has a stigma to it even before the Last DCU movies and that is Batman is the only one that sells.
Superman is boring he gets a new power every issue.
his supporting cast is annoying. No one gives a fukk about jimmy olsen, louis lane, whoever else they got. outside of generic ass doom and general zod no one else stands out.

Cool, fukk outta my thread den bum ass eagles fan.

 

[CW99]

Cool, fukk outta my thread den bum ass eagles fan.

Dont change the fact there needs to be an major overhaul with Superman...Either he starts off as a good guy Louis is killed in the cross fire by the JLA and he turns evil or hes The amazing boring boyscout turning in the same story, performance he has been since George Reeves played him