Still no STEM Shortage.....
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to that bullshyt that you just linked to. I rebuke that shyt. 
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
i dont disagree with the article, fundamentally college is about intellectual development so people should first pursue things that interest them or things they are curious about
Why should that be the first thing? What about employment?
Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Technology is evolving at a monster rate and jobs are getting outsourced or outdone by technology itself.
Not everyone is about that stem life
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
I'm just explaining what the fundemental purpose of college is, the fundemental purpose of college is not employment
So then how do you suggest people go about getting employed?
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
i dont have suggestions on how people get employed, that's a personal problem
Kilgore Trout
Banned
As someone who graduated and worked in engineering i can tell you there is no shortage if you want to live in a big/important city.
Way too much competition for relatively low paying jobs. If you want to live in the middle of nowhere though you can eat.
Im still glad I majored in engineering rather than something like communications.
Way too much competition for relatively low paying jobs. If you want to live in the middle of nowhere though you can eat.
Im still glad I majored in engineering rather than something like communications.
But deciding how to use college isn't? People having trouble finding employment is a macroeconomic problem that affects everybody, including you. If people aren't supposed to use college towards becoming employable, what are they supposed to do towards that end?
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
the decision on whether to go to college is a personal choice, and again i dont really have any advice on how to get employed
but overall the more knowledge and skills you have the better chance you have of being employed
I'm a black Chemistry major(Graduating this Spring! Hoorah Nikkas!) and I strongly disagree.
Realistically speaking I understand the fact everyone can't be STEM majors but its a great field if you want solid employment and you have the work ethic to stick with it. As a chem major you will make around low 30K up to around 60K with just your bachelors which may not sound like a lot to many people but its a pretty legit job. Senior Lab Analysts, Principal Scientist & Principal Chemist easily get mid 80s- high 90sK in the South. They definitely make six figures up north with the higher cost of living. Its not hard to find a job if your not lazy. You just have to apply to a lot of places and be willing to relocate from your hometown if necessary. Pharmaceutical manufacturing is ALWAYS hiring chem grads. If you can't find a job, honestly its probably because you haven't looked hard enough or applied to many places.
To add onto what's already a decent base, a lot of bachelors go onto a professional phase such as Med school, Pharmacy School, Physician Assistant, etc and easily make much more money or even go to Grad School for chemistry. Half of my graduation class is simply working after school and the other half are applying straight for grad/professional schools. Also research is pretty good too if you genuinely enjoy chemistry.
The chem bach provides a good solid base to get a professional degree in the medical field. You can also become a Chemistry Professor and do research at a university. That will easily get you over six figures. Hell, even out accounting professor at my school makes around 150K a year. The professor slots are slim but they do get paid a lot once they get past the associate prof phase.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-rosen/the-stem-skills-shortage-is-real_b_3194071.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-rosen/the-truth-hurts-the-stem-_b_3900575.html
This is just for chemistry. I haven't touched on others like engineering, technology, etc. If you are really good at what you do, you can get some amazing job offers. With strong math skills you can easily do work in the financing sector like accounting or go into physics.
With nursing majors they can make a decent salary and even go on to become nurse practitioners which is the nurse's equivalent to a physician assistant.
What you do is dependent on how hard your are willing to work and your talent/passion for what you do. STEM degrees are far from perfect but nothing in life is perfect and I don't know too many majors where WORST CASE SCENARIO is graduating and making 30-40K doing low level work without really having to worry about unemployment for the rest of your life. Best case scenarios are easily in the six figures, nobel prizes, million dollar companies, organizations and legendary resumes changing history and shyt by creating cures and discovering scientific breakthroughs.
Surprisingly our class is pretty diverse. Its about 50-60% white and nearly every other race being displayed. We have serveral black kids, a few indians, asians, middle easterms, etc. We even have some genius level kids in our program too of different races which is surprising. They destroyed curves in my classes but it was nice competing with them and they made me a much more rigorous student.
Realistically speaking I understand the fact everyone can't be STEM majors but its a great field if you want solid employment and you have the work ethic to stick with it. As a chem major you will make around low 30K up to around 60K with just your bachelors which may not sound like a lot to many people but its a pretty legit job. Senior Lab Analysts, Principal Scientist & Principal Chemist easily get mid 80s- high 90sK in the South. They definitely make six figures up north with the higher cost of living. Its not hard to find a job if your not lazy. You just have to apply to a lot of places and be willing to relocate from your hometown if necessary. Pharmaceutical manufacturing is ALWAYS hiring chem grads. If you can't find a job, honestly its probably because you haven't looked hard enough or applied to many places.
To add onto what's already a decent base, a lot of bachelors go onto a professional phase such as Med school, Pharmacy School, Physician Assistant, etc and easily make much more money or even go to Grad School for chemistry. Half of my graduation class is simply working after school and the other half are applying straight for grad/professional schools. Also research is pretty good too if you genuinely enjoy chemistry.
The chem bach provides a good solid base to get a professional degree in the medical field. You can also become a Chemistry Professor and do research at a university. That will easily get you over six figures. Hell, even out accounting professor at my school makes around 150K a year. The professor slots are slim but they do get paid a lot once they get past the associate prof phase.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-rosen/the-stem-skills-shortage-is-real_b_3194071.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-rosen/the-truth-hurts-the-stem-_b_3900575.html
This is just for chemistry. I haven't touched on others like engineering, technology, etc. If you are really good at what you do, you can get some amazing job offers. With strong math skills you can easily do work in the financing sector like accounting or go into physics.
With nursing majors they can make a decent salary and even go on to become nurse practitioners which is the nurse's equivalent to a physician assistant.
What you do is dependent on how hard your are willing to work and your talent/passion for what you do. STEM degrees are far from perfect but nothing in life is perfect and I don't know too many majors where WORST CASE SCENARIO is graduating and making 30-40K doing low level work without really having to worry about unemployment for the rest of your life. Best case scenarios are easily in the six figures, nobel prizes, million dollar companies, organizations and legendary resumes changing history and shyt by creating cures and discovering scientific breakthroughs.
Surprisingly our class is pretty diverse. Its about 50-60% white and nearly every other race being displayed. We have serveral black kids, a few indians, asians, middle easterms, etc. We even have some genius level kids in our program too of different races which is surprising. They destroyed curves in my classes but it was nice competing with them and they made me a much more rigorous student.
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