South African woman at a multi-racial panel eloquently speaks on the difference between the Black and the white South-African experience 🔥

[ReasonableMatic]

Listen to what she says and [replace] certain references
with other Black Diasporian experiences and they line up perfectly.

(full episode)

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I think the problem is that we forget that white people
have the option of tapping out, right?

So you can sing Jabulani [any Black Diasporian song]
and you can dance

But then you can ALSO remove yourself from the lived experiences
of the culture that you are trying to-

**White woman interjects **
“I’m sorry, I’m speaking “

-From the culture that you’re trying to represent.
That doesn’t make you a bad person, it’s just the truth of the situation.

and I think in South Africa, [insert country with a Black Diaspora]
this is really what the conversation needs to be about.

We need to talk about, why did Apartheid [slavery] end?
Why did colonialism end?

It didn’t end because (white) people’s perspective and behavior changed.

It ended, because it was EXPENSIVE.
It ended, because white people couldn’t travel anymore.
It ended, because they couldn’t play sports anymore.
Because, entertainment for white people was over.

Therefore they needed to bring equality.

We need to be HONEST.
We must be HONEST about this.

So for me, when we want to have this conversation.
It’s easy to say, let’s talk about the Rainbow Nation
[insert any “out of many, one people” type phrase]

Ofcourse we can look forward if your life was never tainted by the experience of Apartheid. [slavery]

Ofcourse YOU can look forward, it’s not the same.
And that’s the experience of being Black.

Constantly having to reconcile your existence.
Reconcile your humanity and demand respect and demand a level of humanity, as opposed to what other people automatically get for being white.

That’s the reality.

You don’t have to label it as racism, if you don’t want to

But, it is what it is.

- Lovelyn Nwadeyi
(founder & director of L&N advisors social justice consultancy)

5 Mic quotable

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

 

[ORDER_66]

 

[SheWantTheD]

 

[bnew]

sounds like critical race theory applies to south africa as well.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

That sista laid it all out and was smooth with it.

White people don't have to be racist at all....but just not having to even THINK about race is white privilege in a nutshell.

 

[ReasonableMatic]

sounds like critical race theory applies to south africa as well.

Critical Race Theory applies to ALL places where African Diasporians exist.

This is Africa and The Americas

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Listen to what she says and [replace] certain references
with other Black Diasporian experiences and they line up perfectly.

(The full episode)

—————————————————————————

I think the problem is that we forget that white people
have the option of tapping out, right?

So you can sing Jabulani [any Black Diasporian song]
and you can dance

But then you can ALSO remove yourself from the lived experiences
of the culture that you are trying to-

**White woman interjects **
“I’m sorry, I’m speaking “

-From the culture that you’re trying to represent.
That doesn’t make you a bad person, it’s just the truth of the situation.

and I think in South Africa, [insert country with a Black Diaspora]
this is really what the conversation needs to be about.

We need to talk about, why did Apartheid [slavery] end?
Why did colonialism end?

It didn’t end because (white) people’s perspective and behavior changed.

It ended, because it was EXPENSIVE.
It ended, because white people couldn’t travel anymore.
It ended, because they couldn’t play sports anymore.
Because, entertainment for white people was over.

Therefore they needed to bring equality.

We need to be HONEST.
We must be HONEST about this.

So for me, when we want to have this conversation.
It’s easy to say, let’s talk about the Rainbow Nation
[insert any “out of many, one people” type phrase]

Ofcourse we can look forward if your life was never tainted by the experience of Apartheid. [slavery]

Ofcourse YOU can look forward, it’s not the same.
And that’s the experience of being Black.

Constantly having to reconcile your existence.
Reconcile your humanity and demand respect and demand a level of humanity, as opposed to what other people automatically get for being white.

That’s the reality.

You don’t have to label it as racism, if you don’t want to

But, it is what it is.

- Lovelyn Nwadeyi
(founder & director of L&N advisors social justice consultancy)

5 Mic quotable

 

[Fillerguy]

More of less what Dubois said in the "Souls of Black folk"

We have the same experiences with cacs despite being separated by an ocean

 

[bnew]

That sista laid it all out and was smooth with it.

White people don't have to be racist at all....but just not having to even THINK about race is white privilege in a nutshell.

reminds me of this comment..

Spoiler: text

I think the important part I come back to is that something like public schools / school choice demonstrates how a racist system can perpetuate even if none of the actors in it are directly racist. This is what is meant when we talk about "systemic racism". It isn't "the system" being controlled by a bunch of klan members - though a lot of people in power do have disturbing ideologies on race - it's the fact that the system, agnostic of any ideology, encourages unequal treatment of people of different ethnic backgrounds merely by people in that system following rational self-interest.

For example, you have two schools. A primarily black school, which is underfunded. And a primarily white suburb school, which is very well funded.

Now, funding depends mostly on tax base and number of attendees, as well as fundraising and other external sources of income.

You can take two of the least-racist white parents, determining where to put their child, and the pragmatic choice is going to be the white school. Not because they themselves are racist, but because that school, with proper funding and access to teachers and smaller class sizes, offers a better outcome for their child.

The system perpetuates. It perpetuates even when people are just following their own rational self-interest, without any overt racist sentiments (though plenty of that still exists too).

And it's one of the biggest problems, because people will sustain this system indefinitely. Not because they subscribe to any supremacist ideology, but because their desires to do right by their children will virtually always outweigh the inclination to stand against systemic racism by sending their child to a subpar school in the name of equality.

This is why it's hard to deal with. Because you're asking many wealthy, priveleged white people to defy their own rational self-interest in order to help a large community of people that don't look like them.

Those white people may not actively harbor racist sentiments. But they do have a deep-seated desire to give their own child that best of all possible outcomes, and usually that will mean participating in a racist system to do so. And no one person is sustaining the system - the blame is diffuse, so that every single person has such a tiny share of the blame that it feels like no guilt at all, and this is what makes it possible.

You can't just throw out the racist governor or the racist zoning board and fix this. It won't suffice. The system is entrenched. It requires an exceptional amount of influx of time, attention, and money, and to a great deal of privileged people, it's going to feel like they are having something taken away from them, because equality often feels like that to people who exist in privilege.

 

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