Laidbackman
All Star
There was a time when some got brainwashed into thinking Joe Frazier was the White mans champion, a marketing tactic employed by Muhammad Ali either during their 2nd fight, or their 3rd fight. I remember responding to a post here not long ago, asking if Frazier was really the White mans champion, and I responded emotionally, describing how untrue that was, and how that degree of brainwashing didn't affect some until years after Frazier retired. I also explained how Frazier was my first boxing champion, and how I was too young to remember when Ali was stripped of the title, and why. This caused me to vote for Frazier over Ali in the first fight. Their next two fights, I couldn't decide who I wanted to win, because by then, Ali had stopped George Foreman, the biggest shock in boxing I ever witness during that time. Ali truly won my respect that night, I guess the same way he won the respect of those when he defeated Liston. Everybody thought Foremen was gonna knock Ali out, like he did Frazier and Norton, both who once defeated Ali. Sometimes I feel like the only one on the planet that didn't really wanna see an Ali-Frazier 2 or 3. Anyway, in that post I talked about this one night, about 15 years after Frazier-Ali 1, when I was with some close relatives and friends, and thought it was ok to say I went for Frazier the first fight. I talked about how they all came down on me just for saying that, and how they tried to make me feel like I somehow couldn't relate to Black people because of where I went to school. Of course I was younger than everybody, and I'm sure that's why they attacked me like that. It took years of me convincing them they were the ones that got brainwashed, and that wound up offending one of them, and it almost turned into a pissing contest over who was more from the hood...smh.
A few days ago, I ran into this you-tube video, and it showed everything about Joe Frazier the way I remembered him, including the autobiography I read about him when I was a child, and all the fights he had since he first one the belt against Jimmy Ellis. This video was the first time I ever saw Frazier talking shyt, and it was during the pre-fight with Ellis. I never knew he verbally put down Ellis like that, until I saw this video. He almost sounded the way Ali sounded towards him. Watching him put down Ellis, then knocking him out, could have been the reason Ali was so hard on him. But then again, that wouldn't have been no excuse, because Ali and Frazier were friends when Ali was banned from boxing, and Frazier supported his comeback.
Anyway, this video should squash any doubts about Frazier been a White mans champion, and how far away he was from that. Anybody who could really go back in time, and remember Frazier during his prime, up til his last fight, should know that wasn't no where, and I mean no where near true. Even a child could see that wasn't the case. Most people didn't even know what an Uncle Tom was, including Frazier himself. Plus with Ali being a Muslim, of course more Whites voted for Frazier over him. But to believe Frazier was a Tom or a White mans champion because of that, would be just as foolish as believing Evander Holyfield was a Tom because more White people voted for him over Mike Tyson, who was also a Muslim.
I wish I would have been able to show this video to the ones one attacked me that night, when I said I rooted for Frazier that first fight.
A few days ago, I ran into this you-tube video, and it showed everything about Joe Frazier the way I remembered him, including the autobiography I read about him when I was a child, and all the fights he had since he first one the belt against Jimmy Ellis. This video was the first time I ever saw Frazier talking shyt, and it was during the pre-fight with Ellis. I never knew he verbally put down Ellis like that, until I saw this video. He almost sounded the way Ali sounded towards him. Watching him put down Ellis, then knocking him out, could have been the reason Ali was so hard on him. But then again, that wouldn't have been no excuse, because Ali and Frazier were friends when Ali was banned from boxing, and Frazier supported his comeback.
Anyway, this video should squash any doubts about Frazier been a White mans champion, and how far away he was from that. Anybody who could really go back in time, and remember Frazier during his prime, up til his last fight, should know that wasn't no where, and I mean no where near true. Even a child could see that wasn't the case. Most people didn't even know what an Uncle Tom was, including Frazier himself. Plus with Ali being a Muslim, of course more Whites voted for Frazier over him. But to believe Frazier was a Tom or a White mans champion because of that, would be just as foolish as believing Evander Holyfield was a Tom because more White people voted for him over Mike Tyson, who was also a Muslim.
I wish I would have been able to show this video to the ones one attacked me that night, when I said I rooted for Frazier that first fight.
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