Sleep 'cleans' the brain of toxins

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24567412

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The brain uses sleep to wash away the waste toxins built up during a hard day's thinking, researchers have shown.

The US team believe the "waste removal system" is one of the fundamental reasons for sleep.

Their study, in the journal Science, showed brain cells shrink during sleep to open up the gaps between neurons and allow fluid to wash the brain clean.

They also suggest that failing to clear away some toxic proteins may play a role in brain disorders.


One big question for sleep researchers is why do animals sleep at all when it leaves them vulnerable to predators?

It has been shown to have a big role in the fixing of memories in the brain and learning, but a team at the University of Rochester Medical Centre believe that "housework" may be one of the primary reasons for sleep.

"The brain only has limited energy at its disposal and it appears that it must choose between two different functional states - awake and aware or asleep and cleaning up," said researcher Dr Maiken Nedergaard.

"You can think of it like having a house party. You can either entertain the guests or clean up the house, but you can't really do both at the same time."


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Their findings build on last year's discovery of the brain's own network of plumbing pipes - known as the glymphatic system - which carry waste material out of the brain.

Scientists, who imaged the brains of mice, showed that the glymphatic system became 10-times more active when the mice were asleep.

Cells in the brain, probably the glial cells which keep nerve cells alive, shrink during sleep. This increases the size of the interstitial space, the gaps between brain tissue, allowing more fluid to be pumped in and wash the toxins away.

Dr Nedergaard said this was a "vital" function for staying alive, but did not appear to be possible while the mind was awake.

She told the BBC: "This is purely speculation, but it looks like the brain is losing a lot of energy when pumping water across the brain and that is probably incompatible with processing information."

She added that the true significance of the findings would be known only after human studies, but doing similar experiments in an MRI machine would be relatively easy.


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Commenting on the research Dr Neil Stanley, an independent sleep expert, said: "This is a very interesting study that shows sleep is essential downtime to do some housekeeping to flush out neurotoxins.

"There is good data on memory and learning, the psychological reason for sleep. But this is the actual physical and chemical reason for sleep, something is happening which is important."

Dr Raphaelle Winsky-Sommerer, a lecturer in sleep at Surrey University, said: "It's not surprising, our whole physiology is changing during sleep.

"The novelty is the role of the interstitial space, but I think it's an added piece of the puzzle not the whole mechanism.

"The significance is that, yet again, it shows sleep may contribute to the restoration of brain cell function and may have protective effects."

Many conditions which lead to the loss of brain cells such as Alzheimer's or Parkinson's disease are characterised by the build-up of damaged proteins in the brain.

The researchers suggest that problems with the brain's cleaning mechanism may contribute to such diseases, but caution more research is needed.


The charity Alzheimer's Research UK said more research would be needed to see whether damage to the brain's waste clearance system could lead to diseases like dementia, but the findings offered a "potential new avenue for investigation".
 
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Who knew that *getting some rest* when you're sick actually worked.


:rudy: Smart Dumb article.
:rudy: The necessity of sleep from a physiological perspective is not something we understand well at all. Don't accuse people of being 'smart dumb' when you don't know anything about the context of said research :heh:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6156/373

Heres the abstract. If you understand anything about beta amyloid plaques, by all means fill us in :heh:
 

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:rudy: The necessity of sleep from a physiological perspective is not something we understand well at all. Don't accuse people of being 'smart dumb' when you don't know anything about the context of said research :heh:
..... A check this out? I had a headache at work, a serious migraine. I thought. How much sleep i get last night. I remembered, 4 hours. I thought, did i have much water the last few days. I remembered, no i had alot of soft drinks. I got home. I drank 2 bottles of water. I went to sleep. When i woke up? Guess what happened.































I felt better. :whoo:
SCIENCE!
 

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..... A check this out? I had a headache at work, a serious migraine. I thought. How much sleep i get last night. I remembered, 4 hours. I thought, did i have much water the last few days. I remembered, no i had alot of soft drinks. I got home. I drank 2 bottles of water. I went to sleep. When i woke up? Guess what happened.


I felt better. :whoo:
SCIENCE!

:snoop: that's not the point. This article is meant as a primer to help people understand the importance of WHY and HOW it all works. If you read the base study, there is a decent amount of neuromolecular bio going on that the average person might not know about. Actually, these guys even mention how this stuff is important in diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinsons. Many of these conditions arise from aggregations of these brain plaques.
 

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:snoop: that's not the point. This article is meant as a primer to help people understand the importance of WHY and HOW it all works. If you read the base study, there is a decent amount of neuromolecular bio going on that the average person might not know about. Actually, these guys even mention how this stuff is important in diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinsons. Many of these conditions arise from aggregations of these brain plaques.

Props for the article OP but..... I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death :ahh::lolbron:
 
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:rudy: The necessity of sleep from a physiological perspective is not something we understand well at all. Don't accuse people of being 'smart dumb' when you don't know anything about the context of said research :heh:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6156/373

Heres the abstract. If you understand anything about beta amyloid plaques, by all means fill us in :heh:
care to explain why you're still posting at 2am and not sleeping :beli:

sidenote: I'll never understand cats, mainly chicks who believe they can get away sleeping 3 hours a night :dahell:
 

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This is purely speculation
is what the article says.

Also, this is based on the 'idea' that the brain is active and working, or sleep and getting rid of the waste...... which doesn't make sense because we know that our other bodily functions can gain energy and even get rid of waste while awake and active.... The brain, being the most advanced organ, should be able to do the same.

I think it has more to do with memory and processing thoughts and subconscious thoughts.
 

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care to explain why you're still posting at 2am and not sleeping :beli:

sidenote: I'll never understand cats, mainly chicks who believe they can get away sleeping 3 hours a night :dahell:

I only need about six :dahell:

I can also do like 8 but more than that and I feel drowsy :dahell:

is what the article says.

Also, this is based on the 'idea' that the brain is active and working, or sleep and getting rid of the waste...... which doesn't make sense because we know that our other bodily functions can gain energy and even get rid of waste while awake and active.... The brain, being the most advanced organ, should be able to do the same.

I think it has more to do with memory and processing thoughts and subconscious thoughts.

:patrice:... The speculation is on the mechanism as to why the brain does said functions during sleep. The researchers have already found out that it does.The brain is not 'advanced' per se. it is a unique organ in terms of many things; growth, circulation, immune response. it makes sense that it doesn't use the same filtration and maintenance systems as other organs.
 

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is what the article says.

Also, this is based on the 'idea' that the brain is active and working, or sleep and getting rid of the waste...... which doesn't make sense because we know that our other bodily functions can gain energy and even get rid of waste while awake and active.... The brain, being the most advanced organ, should be able to do the same.

I think it has more to do with memory and processing thoughts and subconscious thoughts.
To process memory and thoughts, require food, which will produce waste so it makes sense for the brain to have a cleaning mechanism just like the body does. We don't get rid of waste or gain energy efficiently while being active. When you are at rest your body builds up way more energy(assuming you have eating some food) when you have had some rest, then if you were constantly active. This is why your parasympathetic nervous system is most active when you're sleep. That is the part of your nervous system that deals with rest, digestion, and rebuilding the body.

Another thing that is important is how much good fats you eat with your dinner because your lymphatic system uses monounsaturated fat to provide the energy it needs to do this work. I have a feeling the glymphatic system is doing the same thing, since the brain is so high in fat which means it's waste products will be high in fat soluble waste.
 

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Its unclear in the article if you need to reach a certain level of sleeping before this cleansing takes place. All it says is that the brain chooses between "awake and aware" and "asleep and cleansing"...I suppose that poses the assumption that the depth of sleep is irrelevant, but I would bet that cleansing activity, per se, may differ at different stages of sleep (Slow-wave vs REM, etc.) Im thinking about this, also, specifically, in regards to polyphasic sleep and/or the famous Da Vinci sleep cycle and wondering about this study's significance.
 

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Its unclear in the article if you need to reach a certain level of sleeping before this cleansing takes place. All it says is that the brain chooses between "awake and aware" and "asleep and cleansing"...I suppose that poses the assumption that the depth of sleep is irrelevant, but I would bet that cleansing activity, per se, may differ at different stages of sleep (Slow-wave vs REM, etc.) Im thinking about this, also, specifically, in regards to polyphasic sleep and/or the famous Da Vinci sleep cycle and wondering about this study's significance.
can u explain what you're talking about? do you mean, maybe someone needs to be on the rem sleep cycle to start the cleaning?



on a side note: since hl has problems: the way boiliterant and lott shut me down in this thread- is the appropriate way for HL subfourm.
 

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can u explain what you're talking about? do you mean, maybe someone needs to be on the rem sleep cycle to start the cleaning?



on a side note: since hl has problems: the way boiliterant and lott shut me down in this thread- is the appropriate way for HL subfourm.

Yeah, there are different stages of sleep, and basically I was wondering if the cleansing happens at any stage of sleep and the rate it happens at one stage compared to another.
 
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