As confirmed last week, Sean Price is guest-editing HipHopDX this week. We asked the Brownsville, Brooklyn emcee who we should feature, and he not only suggested Scarface, he asked to do the intervirew himself. Last week, we got the Facemob and Boot Camp Clik delegates on the phone for a conversation that made us think, made us laugh and made us proud to have Sean on the squad this week. We hope you like it the same:
Sean Price: So whats good with you, brother? Whats going on, man?
Scarface: Hey man, Im chillin. I aint doing nothing. You know what I did? Let me just start off by saying I went out and voted, hows that?
Sean Price: Thats what Im talking about, man. Thats cool, I respect that. I just... I woke up this morning. [I was] waiting for a FedEx package and come to find out that motherfukkin FedEx dont deliver here. Then I gotta go to the Post Office, the Post Office bytch aint even notice, so I had to run up the block. I ordered this bangin ass Eddie Bauer shooting shirt, you know the beige shyt with the safety orange on it?
Scarface: Yeah.
Sean Price: Yeah, I bought one of them shooting shirts, its great. I cant wait to put it on and shyt on my friends. [Laughs]
Scarface: Hey, dont you be shyttin on the homies, man.
Sean Price: Nah, I live for that. I live for bragging rights. Im older, but I still love putting on that fresh shyt like, the first day of school and come out and shyt on my friends, man. Thats all I got left in my life besides my daughter. [Laughs]
Scarface: I know, I shyt on all my friends on the golf course.
Sean Price: Oh man, you know what? I just tried to play tennis for the first time.
Scarface: You should.
Sean Price: It was fun, but when you havent been working out in awhile and you start moving muscles you aint move in awhile; good Lord, I was in pain.
Scarface: Itll hurt.
Sean Price: Yeah, it definitely hurt. I was in pain like a motherfukker the next day.
Scarface: Yeah, it hurts.
Sean Price: Definitely.
[My friends] gave me a bunch of questions, but these is... I dont know.
Scarface: fukkin' synthetic', huh?
Sean Price: They asked about the you and Beanie Siegel album, Im like --
Scarface: -- I would much rather us get off like youre with your homeboys, shootin the shyt.
Sean Price & Scarface Talk About The Craft Of Emceeing
Sean Price: Yeah man, true story.
I do wanna know, from one emcee to another...me, I listen to the beat and let the beat tell me what to do. Im wondering whats your method for writing rhymes? They come to you, or you got a beat first?
Scarface: You know what? First, my raps start with topics. If Im going to write a rhyme, if I seem like, Damn, that motherfukker that been around me looks like a God damn, evil-ass devil-man, Ill start researching humans and satanic shyt, and Ill jot down ideas. And this like weeks and months before I even pick a beat. When the beat come, I already read and researched my shyt.
Secondly, when I know what Im going to say, and I hear a beat, and now im coming up with rhyme schemes. Rhyme patterns.
Sean Price: Right, the cadence and all that.
Scarface: And then the most important part, for me, is the come-lines. If you listen to any of my shyt, the first three or four words are the most important part of the song, to me.
I did a record for French Montana. My come-line was, The smell of blood in the bathroom / Body laid out, stiff full of stab wounds. Thats my come-line! [Laughs] But you know what? Thats attractive enough to get the people to- its attention-grabbing to the ear.
Sean Price: Yeah, I feel you on that.
Scarface: I did a real good one last night thatll make you laugh, man. My record is like 15 minutes.
Sean Price: It takes you 15 minutes to knock them out?
Scarface: Yeah, maybe a hour now, I got a lot faster now
Sean Price: Im a one-taker, man. I cant lie, when I first got [signed]...when I was in my group Heltah Skeltah back in the day, Buckshot wouldnt let us punch in. Hed be like, If you wrote it say it. If you wrote it, say it, motherfukker.
Scarface: My whole idea of the punch was... Bun B dont punch [either].
Sean Price: I punch now, but in my crew you had to earn that right. Which was good training, cause when I do albums now, when I do songs I one-take it, which was good training. So I actually appreciate Buck for not letting me punch [on Heltah Skeltah's Nocturnal].
Scarface: Man, I love Buckshot. I wish he would... well, I have to punch, man.
Sean Price: Oh yeah, I punch in too now. I just want the song to sound great, but that training in the beginning was good training.
Scarface: Yeah, you gotta earn that right.
Sean Price. Yeah, you had to earn the right to punch in, you couldnt just punch. Nah. Plus, back in the day we had the two-inch wheels and dude had to rewind and [spinning sounds], find the spot and all that shyt. Now [its] just a click of a mouse now.
Scarface: Yeah, it made it a lot easier. But you know what? Believe it or not, we was on Pro Tools and Screen Sound way back in the early 90s.
Sean Price: Ah, not I. Not at D&D Studios. [Laughs]
Scarface: Yeah, we was at digital studios man. Digital Services.
Sean Price: Oh, okay. We had two-inch reels wheels, so all that rewinding and [spinning sounds], Im like, You know what? Let me just knock it out. But now, everything is a click of a mouse, its so easy now.
Scarface: I got this one engineer, well him, Steve-O, and I cant do no verse without him.
Sean Price: When you got a good engineer, that helps so much, cause when they kind of know you--
Scarface: -- Yeah, I can just say, Hey man, take me back to Enjoy your day... and hell be right there [at] Enjoy your day... you know what Im saying? It dont take him no two-three hours to find the fukkin spot and then go from there. We good.
Sean Price: Yeah, actually my deejay is my engineer, he has a studio. So I actually got my deejay, DJ PF Cuttin, he used to be in the group Blahzay Blahzay. They made that record [Danger raps the chorus] When the East is in the house / Oh my god... [singing].
Scarface: Yeah. [Laughs]
Sean Price: Thats my deejay.
Scarface: That was a big record! [Rapping] When the East is in the house / Oh my god. Yeah!
Sean Price: Yeah, so that was DJ PF Cuttin, he actually produced that song. He has a great ear, hes great behind the boards, and I actually take him on tour with me, on the road as my deejay. Im the godfather of his kids, so thats my man hunny-grand. So we rock together real good.
Scarface & Sean Price Talk About Beanie Sigel, Why Mac N Brad May Be On Hold
Scarface: That is so dope.
But the Beanie Sigel [Mac N Brad] project, we aint even get a chance to fukk with it like we wanted to, cause me and Beans got jammed. And I dont know if they told you about it, but the shyt thats fukked up with the Feds is, the Feds dont run [Concurrent charges]. They stack shyt.
Sean Price: They dont do concurrent?
Scarface: Nah, they dont run C.C., they stack their shyt. So if he had to go do two years for this, then that new fukking case- well you know what?
Sean Price: Not if he had a fukking pistol in the car, right?
Scarface: They might run it concurrent.
Sean Price: Its eight [years] with a concurrent, cause its two different charges.
Scarface: Yeah, so I hope Im wrong. I pray Im wrong, but from the looks of it, he gotta give them that two and a half or three [years] is what he gotta do. And then he gotta give them that five.
Sean Price: Yeah, I think Federal Guidelines is 60 months for a gun?
Scarface: Yup. Aint no way around it.
Sean Price: I just wish him the best. Hold his head, him and his family.
I dont know if its true, but it says you collect comics...
Scarface: Comics? Hell nah, I used to collect comics when I was a little boy.
Sean Price: Oh, you dont? Man, I still read comic books, man. I love comic books.
Scarface: Really?
Sean Price: [Laughs] Yeah.
Scarface: Comic books is dope, but I mean --
Sean Price: -- It helps me with my vocabulary when Im writing rhymes sometimes, I aint gonna lie.
Scarface: What would be your #1 , ideal "Rap Batman and Robin"? Or a trio.
Sean Price: Let me see, my ideal would be, not me...
Scarface: Who would you want to hear if you blended voices together?
Sean Price: I would like to hear- can I pick dead or alive?
Scarface: Nah nikka, they gotta be alive.
Sean Price: They gotta be alive? Well let me see. You know what? shyt. Even though they got a little drama right now, I would like to hear Young Jeezy and [Rick] Ross together, man.
Scarface: Thats dope, man.
Sean Price: I think that would be a dope album if they can settle whatevers going on. I dont know the ins-and-outs of that, it aint none of my business. But I think the would make a dope album together, theyre into that same hustla talk, know what I mean? I think itd be a dope listen, man.
Scarface: I think itd be a great listen, man. I like that shyt. I like Andre 3000 and Common.
Sean Price: Whoa. That sounds crazy.
Scarface: Or Andre 3000 and Kanye [West].
Sean Price: Oh yeah, that probably would sound very crazy.
You know what? You and Styles P, man. I could hear you with Styles P on a few joints, I think thatd be crazy too. Im a huge Styles P fan, Im a diehard hardcore rapper; thats my shyt. I listen to everything else, but that Hardcore Rap is my shyt. You and Styles P would make some tight music together, I think that shyt would be tight like crawdads, fo sho.
Scarface: Like crawdads...
Sean Price: [Laughs] That shyt gotta be tight, its in the water all day. Waterproof that shyt. Gotta be tight. [Laughs]
Sean Price & Scarface Talk About Houston & New York Hip Hop, A$AP Rocky
Scarface: Man, you know what? When I look at what New York is to Hip Hop... and this is totally out of left field... but when I look at what New York is to Hip Hop, and then... Ive been coming to New York for 25 years. Well, Ive been coming to New York my whole life, cause my aunt been living in Harlem since the 50s. So I kinda been cheating a little bit, I been rapping my ass off.
When you go to New York you get a certain state of mind, right? But now when you go to New York- shyt, this is New York radio that put you in that state of mind too, right? Well now look at what New York radio been doing to you.
Sean Price: You know I think, homie? I think thats the times now. Remember, Im 40 years old.
Scarface: [Im] 41.
Sean Price: Exactly, so we in the same demographic. So you remember, if I lived in New York... by the time we got a Geto Boys album in Brownsville, that probably was [the group's third studio album We Can't Be Stopped]. They [didnt] have like- youre not going to see Too Short. Theyre not gonna have a Too Short record, theyre not gonna have a Geto Boys record unless I travel somewhere and I find it, back then. Now you can have the whole world in front of you by computer. So I think its easier to- a lot of my friends be like, Yo, A$AP Rocky, he sound like he from Houston. Im like, Yo, he can see Houston online, and pick up the culture online!
Scarface: Well I told them motherfukkers that question, that any doubt in their minds about what A$AP Rocky was doing.
Sean Price: Oh, I love it. Im just saying...that question, You dont sound New York, or You dont sound like you from here, we got the whole world at our fingertips right now, so its easy to be adept to some other shyt.
Sean Price: So whats good with you, brother? Whats going on, man?
Scarface: Hey man, Im chillin. I aint doing nothing. You know what I did? Let me just start off by saying I went out and voted, hows that?
Sean Price: Thats what Im talking about, man. Thats cool, I respect that. I just... I woke up this morning. [I was] waiting for a FedEx package and come to find out that motherfukkin FedEx dont deliver here. Then I gotta go to the Post Office, the Post Office bytch aint even notice, so I had to run up the block. I ordered this bangin ass Eddie Bauer shooting shirt, you know the beige shyt with the safety orange on it?
Scarface: Yeah.
Sean Price: Yeah, I bought one of them shooting shirts, its great. I cant wait to put it on and shyt on my friends. [Laughs]
Scarface: Hey, dont you be shyttin on the homies, man.
Sean Price: Nah, I live for that. I live for bragging rights. Im older, but I still love putting on that fresh shyt like, the first day of school and come out and shyt on my friends, man. Thats all I got left in my life besides my daughter. [Laughs]
Scarface: I know, I shyt on all my friends on the golf course.
Sean Price: Oh man, you know what? I just tried to play tennis for the first time.
Scarface: You should.
Sean Price: It was fun, but when you havent been working out in awhile and you start moving muscles you aint move in awhile; good Lord, I was in pain.
Scarface: Itll hurt.
Sean Price: Yeah, it definitely hurt. I was in pain like a motherfukker the next day.
Scarface: Yeah, it hurts.
Sean Price: Definitely.
[My friends] gave me a bunch of questions, but these is... I dont know.
Scarface: fukkin' synthetic', huh?
Sean Price: They asked about the you and Beanie Siegel album, Im like --
Scarface: -- I would much rather us get off like youre with your homeboys, shootin the shyt.
Sean Price & Scarface Talk About The Craft Of Emceeing
Sean Price: Yeah man, true story.
I do wanna know, from one emcee to another...me, I listen to the beat and let the beat tell me what to do. Im wondering whats your method for writing rhymes? They come to you, or you got a beat first?
Scarface: You know what? First, my raps start with topics. If Im going to write a rhyme, if I seem like, Damn, that motherfukker that been around me looks like a God damn, evil-ass devil-man, Ill start researching humans and satanic shyt, and Ill jot down ideas. And this like weeks and months before I even pick a beat. When the beat come, I already read and researched my shyt.
Secondly, when I know what Im going to say, and I hear a beat, and now im coming up with rhyme schemes. Rhyme patterns.
Sean Price: Right, the cadence and all that.
Scarface: And then the most important part, for me, is the come-lines. If you listen to any of my shyt, the first three or four words are the most important part of the song, to me.
I did a record for French Montana. My come-line was, The smell of blood in the bathroom / Body laid out, stiff full of stab wounds. Thats my come-line! [Laughs] But you know what? Thats attractive enough to get the people to- its attention-grabbing to the ear.
Sean Price: Yeah, I feel you on that.
Scarface: I did a real good one last night thatll make you laugh, man. My record is like 15 minutes.
Sean Price: It takes you 15 minutes to knock them out?
Scarface: Yeah, maybe a hour now, I got a lot faster now
Sean Price: Im a one-taker, man. I cant lie, when I first got [signed]...when I was in my group Heltah Skeltah back in the day, Buckshot wouldnt let us punch in. Hed be like, If you wrote it say it. If you wrote it, say it, motherfukker.
Scarface: My whole idea of the punch was... Bun B dont punch [either].
Sean Price: I punch now, but in my crew you had to earn that right. Which was good training, cause when I do albums now, when I do songs I one-take it, which was good training. So I actually appreciate Buck for not letting me punch [on Heltah Skeltah's Nocturnal].
Scarface: Man, I love Buckshot. I wish he would... well, I have to punch, man.
Sean Price: Oh yeah, I punch in too now. I just want the song to sound great, but that training in the beginning was good training.
Scarface: Yeah, you gotta earn that right.
Sean Price. Yeah, you had to earn the right to punch in, you couldnt just punch. Nah. Plus, back in the day we had the two-inch wheels and dude had to rewind and [spinning sounds], find the spot and all that shyt. Now [its] just a click of a mouse now.
Scarface: Yeah, it made it a lot easier. But you know what? Believe it or not, we was on Pro Tools and Screen Sound way back in the early 90s.
Sean Price: Ah, not I. Not at D&D Studios. [Laughs]
Scarface: Yeah, we was at digital studios man. Digital Services.
Sean Price: Oh, okay. We had two-inch reels wheels, so all that rewinding and [spinning sounds], Im like, You know what? Let me just knock it out. But now, everything is a click of a mouse, its so easy now.
Scarface: I got this one engineer, well him, Steve-O, and I cant do no verse without him.
Sean Price: When you got a good engineer, that helps so much, cause when they kind of know you--
Scarface: -- Yeah, I can just say, Hey man, take me back to Enjoy your day... and hell be right there [at] Enjoy your day... you know what Im saying? It dont take him no two-three hours to find the fukkin spot and then go from there. We good.
Sean Price: Yeah, actually my deejay is my engineer, he has a studio. So I actually got my deejay, DJ PF Cuttin, he used to be in the group Blahzay Blahzay. They made that record [Danger raps the chorus] When the East is in the house / Oh my god... [singing].
Scarface: Yeah. [Laughs]
Sean Price: Thats my deejay.
Scarface: That was a big record! [Rapping] When the East is in the house / Oh my god. Yeah!
Sean Price: Yeah, so that was DJ PF Cuttin, he actually produced that song. He has a great ear, hes great behind the boards, and I actually take him on tour with me, on the road as my deejay. Im the godfather of his kids, so thats my man hunny-grand. So we rock together real good.
Scarface & Sean Price Talk About Beanie Sigel, Why Mac N Brad May Be On Hold
Scarface: That is so dope.
But the Beanie Sigel [Mac N Brad] project, we aint even get a chance to fukk with it like we wanted to, cause me and Beans got jammed. And I dont know if they told you about it, but the shyt thats fukked up with the Feds is, the Feds dont run [Concurrent charges]. They stack shyt.
Sean Price: They dont do concurrent?
Scarface: Nah, they dont run C.C., they stack their shyt. So if he had to go do two years for this, then that new fukking case- well you know what?
Sean Price: Not if he had a fukking pistol in the car, right?
Scarface: They might run it concurrent.
Sean Price: Its eight [years] with a concurrent, cause its two different charges.
Scarface: Yeah, so I hope Im wrong. I pray Im wrong, but from the looks of it, he gotta give them that two and a half or three [years] is what he gotta do. And then he gotta give them that five.
Sean Price: Yeah, I think Federal Guidelines is 60 months for a gun?
Scarface: Yup. Aint no way around it.
Sean Price: I just wish him the best. Hold his head, him and his family.
I dont know if its true, but it says you collect comics...
Scarface: Comics? Hell nah, I used to collect comics when I was a little boy.
Sean Price: Oh, you dont? Man, I still read comic books, man. I love comic books.
Scarface: Really?
Sean Price: [Laughs] Yeah.
Scarface: Comic books is dope, but I mean --
Sean Price: -- It helps me with my vocabulary when Im writing rhymes sometimes, I aint gonna lie.
Scarface: What would be your #1 , ideal "Rap Batman and Robin"? Or a trio.
Sean Price: Let me see, my ideal would be, not me...
Scarface: Who would you want to hear if you blended voices together?
Sean Price: I would like to hear- can I pick dead or alive?
Scarface: Nah nikka, they gotta be alive.
Sean Price: They gotta be alive? Well let me see. You know what? shyt. Even though they got a little drama right now, I would like to hear Young Jeezy and [Rick] Ross together, man.
Scarface: Thats dope, man.
Sean Price: I think that would be a dope album if they can settle whatevers going on. I dont know the ins-and-outs of that, it aint none of my business. But I think the would make a dope album together, theyre into that same hustla talk, know what I mean? I think itd be a dope listen, man.
Scarface: I think itd be a great listen, man. I like that shyt. I like Andre 3000 and Common.
Sean Price: Whoa. That sounds crazy.
Scarface: Or Andre 3000 and Kanye [West].
Sean Price: Oh yeah, that probably would sound very crazy.
You know what? You and Styles P, man. I could hear you with Styles P on a few joints, I think thatd be crazy too. Im a huge Styles P fan, Im a diehard hardcore rapper; thats my shyt. I listen to everything else, but that Hardcore Rap is my shyt. You and Styles P would make some tight music together, I think that shyt would be tight like crawdads, fo sho.
Scarface: Like crawdads...
Sean Price: [Laughs] That shyt gotta be tight, its in the water all day. Waterproof that shyt. Gotta be tight. [Laughs]
Sean Price & Scarface Talk About Houston & New York Hip Hop, A$AP Rocky
Scarface: Man, you know what? When I look at what New York is to Hip Hop... and this is totally out of left field... but when I look at what New York is to Hip Hop, and then... Ive been coming to New York for 25 years. Well, Ive been coming to New York my whole life, cause my aunt been living in Harlem since the 50s. So I kinda been cheating a little bit, I been rapping my ass off.
When you go to New York you get a certain state of mind, right? But now when you go to New York- shyt, this is New York radio that put you in that state of mind too, right? Well now look at what New York radio been doing to you.
Sean Price: You know I think, homie? I think thats the times now. Remember, Im 40 years old.
Scarface: [Im] 41.
Sean Price: Exactly, so we in the same demographic. So you remember, if I lived in New York... by the time we got a Geto Boys album in Brownsville, that probably was [the group's third studio album We Can't Be Stopped]. They [didnt] have like- youre not going to see Too Short. Theyre not gonna have a Too Short record, theyre not gonna have a Geto Boys record unless I travel somewhere and I find it, back then. Now you can have the whole world in front of you by computer. So I think its easier to- a lot of my friends be like, Yo, A$AP Rocky, he sound like he from Houston. Im like, Yo, he can see Houston online, and pick up the culture online!
Scarface: Well I told them motherfukkers that question, that any doubt in their minds about what A$AP Rocky was doing.
Sean Price: Oh, I love it. Im just saying...that question, You dont sound New York, or You dont sound like you from here, we got the whole world at our fingertips right now, so its easy to be adept to some other shyt.