RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT

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Yea but it's still a Republican run House & Congress. Despite Trump being a colossal fukk up he still enjoys wide spread support from his base. I think it's clear that he has committed obstruction of justice but i don't think Republicans are going to be driven to push him out and alienate their own base in the process

He's not getting impeached.
 

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So at this point, here's my theory:

Flynn is one of the relatively few direct links between Russia and far right extremists in America. For the past several years, while the far right has been gaining in strength, Russia given mostly indirect aid; tracking people's Facebook habits, helping conservative stories trend, etc. For the most part, the public faces of the alt-right are probably not aware that Russia has been helping them.

But there is a select group of people on the right who do know. These are the "people who need to know," if you will. Flynn is among them. I suspect that Carter Page and Paul Manafort are among them as well. There are probably several others not in the Trump administration (e.g., Roger Stone, Maria Butina) who definitely fall into that group. POSSIBLY Steve Bannon and Seb Gorka---I think think those two might just be useful idiots though.

For a while, the "people who need to know" flew under the radar. But during the 2016 election, many of them became involved with Trump's campaign, both because of personal ambition and probably necessity. Now that they are part of the White House, they have been exposed. And they are vicariously dragging down every other Republican around them who saw the warning signs during the 2016 campaign and chose to ignore them

This latter category is much broader than the "people who need to know." I think it encompasses Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Kevin McCarthy, and probably Donald Trump. I don't think any of these people are devious enough or intelligent enough to knowingly act as Russian agents. With Donald Trump in particular, there is no way an idiot like that was directly groomed to be a Manchurian Candidate. I think it's much more likely that this group of people saw warning signs of Russian interference and just chose to brush them off half-jokingly. And why not? They were getting gifts and winning votes and shyt. I also don't think there's any blackmail on any of them. There doesn't need to be. They just followed along because they're dumb American politicians. Same thing with Trump's business ties. I don't think he was ever directly approached about anything. The oligarchs just sort of buttered him up and he played along.

But now that one of the "people who need to know" is going down (Flynn), he's going to name-drop all of the unsuspecting idiots first. He won't snitch on Carter Page. He won't snitch on Paul Manafort. At least not until he has to---he'll play all of those cards last. But before he does, he'll bury all of the Tea Party babies who chose to follow the Russians straight off a cliff; they're the ones who are truly expendable.

Trump firing Flynn was an attempt to distance himself from the Russian influence once things became a bit more obvious. Appointing one of the "people who need to know" to head the NSC was a mistake. But culling Flynn from the herd made him vulnerable, so Trump needed Comey on his side to make sure he didn't pursue Flynn. Comey refused and Trump had to double down on his mistake by firing Comey. And here we are today.

But trump knew about Flynn's ties to Russia and about the fact that he was under investigation... he let him into his administration knowing he was in trouble.
 

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Yea but it's still a Republican run House & Congress. Despite Trump being a colossal fukk up he still enjoys wide spread support from his base. I think it's clear that he has committed obstruction of justice but i don't think Republicans are going to be driven to push him out and alienate their own base in the process
Still the republicans leaders are scared of trump because of his support in their districts. To me yes trump has committed obstruction but the way everyone is hyping up Mueller, it wouldn't shock me if he came out in a month or two and said Trump did some silly things but not crime worthy or impeachable. He would then give his findings to congress and you know they won't go against trump.

And I think that will not only get trump through this term, but set him up for a 2nd term because the DEMS don't have anyone strong enough to go against him, also dems are laying all of their eggs into the impeachment stuff instead of building bridges for the midterms and IF trump can get past what has been dogging him since he decided to run(russia) then nothing will stop him.

Unless they find just some direct stuff or IF flynn starts snitching, remember he did ask for immunity because he knows he was doing criminal shyt and he may be brought to justice so Trump and Co are trying to stay on his good side and shut him up.
 
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This is kinda how I been feeling. I've been seeing alotta circumstantial shyt and reading this shyt like everyone else. But this is gonna take a while for Mueller to actually resolve anything, maybe months or years to find anything IF they actually do find anything concrete

I just think what's gonna happen is that they're gonna slap Trump on the hand for being irresponsible, being improper and maybe even being guilty of lesser crimes, but I don't think he gets charged with a huge crime and I don't think he gets impeached.

In your worst case scenario, if Trump get charged, the media frenzy and public outrage will be at a million. Add that with trumpcare blowback and that could be enough to make him resign. Or have a heart attack from the stress. Or because he is incompetent somehow start ww3.

But we all know it is way deeper than that.

The fukkery :wow:
 

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He's not getting impeached.
I disagree with this statement. There is a reasonable chance that the special prosecutor could come up with a case for impeachment. Just because he's impeached doesn't mean he will be removed from office but there seems to be enough smoke in this situation to know there's a fire.
 

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I disagree with this statement. There is a reasonable chance that the special prosecutor could come up with a case for impeachment. Just because he's impeached doesn't mean he will be removed from office but there seems to be enough smoke in this situation to know there's a fire.

Still the republicans leaders are scared of trump because of his support in their districts. To me yes trump has committed obstruction but the way everyone is hyping up Mueller, it wouldn't shock me if he came out in a month or two and said Trump did some silly things but not crime worthy or impeachable. He would then give his findings to congress and you know they won't go against trump.

And I think that will not only get trump through this term, but set him up for a 2nd term because the DEMS don't have anyone strong enough to go against him, also dems are laying all of their eggs into the impeachment stuff instead of building bridges for the midterms and IF trump can get past what has been dogging him since he decided to run(russia) then nothing will stop him.

Unless they find just some direct stuff or IF flynn starts snitching, remember he did ask for immunity because he knows he was doing criminal shyt and he may be brought to justice so Trump and Co are trying to stay on his good side and shut him up.


This type of controversy is what's made him entertaining from the moment he began his candidacy in 2015.

He's been great for the mainstream media and causal on lookers who know little to nothing about politics but have been conditioned to hate him...

He's never going to be covered fairly or from an objective view from most liberal mediums because of how he treated them during his candidacy (and after)

If he drops a pen the wrong way the media is going to make it seem like he was going to murder someone with it lol

In closing, enjoy these threads from Napoleon that are filled with nothing but empty tweets littered with;

"We've got him now. He's finally done... it's going to be over after the public finds this out"


He's literally been posting these things since the end of 2015.

Donald Trump was supposed to have been "exposed" 484848484884848448 times now....

Hasn't happened... this is in the social media era where there is no privacy

Donald Trump is your president people. For better/worse
 

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This type of controversy is what's made him entertaining from the moment he began his candidacy in 2015.

He's been great for the mainstream media and causal on lookers who know little to nothing about politics but have been conditioned to hate him...

He's never going to be covered fairly or from an objective view from most liberal mediums because of how he treated them during his candidacy (and after)

If he drops a pen the wrong way the media is going to make it seem like he was going to murder someone with it lol

In closing, enjoy these threads from Napoleon that are filled with nothing but empty tweets littered with;

"We've got him now. He's finally done... it's going to be over after the public finds this out"


He's literally been posting these things since the end of 2015.

Donald Trump was supposed to have been "exposed" 484848484884848448 times now....

Hasn't happened... this is in the social media era where there is no privacy

Donald Trump is your president people. For better/worse
But he has been exposed along with everyone around him. He's a treasonous liar and the intelligence agencies know it. Trump's not getting out of this unscathed, I'd bet $1000 he won't finish his first term. His team isnt as smart as the Bush/Cheney. He's going to be hung for sedition.
 

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But he has been exposed along with everyone around him. He's a treasonous liar and the intelligence agencies know it. Trump's not getting out of this unscathed, I'd bet $1000 he won't finish his first term. His team isnt as smart as the Bush/Cheney. He's going to be hung for sedition.


See what I'm saying lol

You've been in this echo chamber too long.

My man said hung for sedition :wow:

He's not getting hung and no one on his current staff has been exposed of anything. It's well within a presidents jurisdiction to fire the head of the FBI.

I can't go back and forth with your types because you're clearly way to immersed in the headlines.. so sit back and enjoy the show.....

But promise me that with each day that passes when it dawns on you that he isn't going anywhere man up and shoot me a DM and we'll laugh about it...

45 was selected for a reason. He's not going anywhere.
 
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