RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT

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Its very transparent.

I'm wondering if the State Department has the nuts to tell him to learn to love cold weather and Vodka because they aren't making an exchange.

breh, the state dept is probably drafting up some memo that could be used to justify a swap

but my instincts tell me that there will be no swap, especially if news of his military record is confirmed, this is just another way for the russians to troll the US b/c in fact butina probably cant tell mueller and co., anything that they dont already know or suspect. she will sell everyone out at the NRA and GOP establishment, causing further controversy/discord etc...

i think they were trying to do this very quickly before anyone figures out too much...but again the russians are on a different time table and have different motivations
 

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breh, the state dept is probably drafting up some memo that could be used to justify a swap

but my instincts tell me that there will be no swap, especially if news of his military record is confirmed, this is just another way for the russians to troll the US b/c in fact butina probably cant tell mueller and co., anything that they dont already know or suspect. she will sell everyone out at the NRA and GOP establishment, causing further controversy/discord etc...

i think they were trying to do this very quickly before anyone figures out too much...but again the russians are on a different time table and have different motivations
I'm not sure how they can justify a swap considering Butina has admitted to being a spy-lite and Whelan is a discharged vet with a shaky past. We can't get into the business of trading spies for civilians.
 

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Are they trying to secretly sabotage Trump or do they really believe this is somehow going to give them strong leverage over the Dems going into 2020?


That's how they motivate trump like telling a kid he can't have his toy if he acts up. This is kind of like that but they want him to act up. It's weird but white.
 

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Are they trying to secretly sabotage Trump or do they really believe this is somehow going to give them strong leverage over the Dems going into 2020?



Neither IMO. Republican voters ride for Trump. They'll support him no matter what, the wall (or lack thereof) won't change that.

Republican politicians realize this and are just trying to put themselves in good standing with the MAGA crowd so they can get the same benefits (ie. unwavering loyalty) as Trump. It's not going to give them any leverage with Dems but Republican voters will like it.
 

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Another scandal is brewing... :whoo:

defending illegals :scust:




nytimes.com
Undocumented Worker Says Trump Resort Shielded Her From Secret Service
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Emma Torres, an undocumented immigrant from Ecuador, said she told human resources at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., that she did not have legal status. She said that she was told: “It’s O.K. No problem.” CreditCreditChristopher Gregory for The New York Times
A former employee of the Trump National Golf Club in New Jersey said that her name was removed from a list of workers to be vetted by the Secret Service after she reminded management that she was unlawfully in the United States, the latest worker to assert that supervisors at the elite resort were aware that some members of their work force were undocumented.

The Bedminster golf club has recently terminated several workers who were determined to be ineligible to work in the country, according to several people familiar with the matter
, following a New York Times report that revealed that immigrants who presented false documents were knowingly kept on the payroll, sometimes for years.

A lawyer representing the women has met with investigators from the New Jersey attorney general’s office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, presenting what he said was evidence that managers at the golf club knew that some workers were in the country illegally, and that at least one supervisor helped an employee obtain forged working documents. :ohhh:

In the latest revelation, Emma Torres, an undocumented immigrant from Ecuador who prepared food at the club, said that members of the kitchen staff were asked in 2016, as Donald J. Trump was in the midst of his campaign for the White House, to write their names, addresses and other details, including their Social Security numbers, on a list of employees that would be submitted to the Secret Service for clearance.

The golf club has been a favorite venue for vacation and business meetings for Mr. Trump.

“When I learned this is for the Secret Service to see the records of everyone because they are giving protection to Mr. Trump, I rushed to human resources,” Ms. Torres said in an interview. “I thought, God, what will I do?” Ms. Torres said she had used a fake Social Security number when she applied for her job.

She said that she told a human resources employee, whose name she does not know, that she did not have legal status. She said that the woman replied, “‘It’s O.K. No problem.’ She scratched me off the list.”

The woman then asked Ms. Torres for names of other kitchen workers who might be undocumented, which Ms. Torres said she provided.

There is no evidence that Mr. Trump knew of the unlawful status of employees at the club.
But halting illegal immigration, by stanching the influx across the border and deporting immigrants living inside the country have been core priorities of his administration. Mr. Trump has demanded $5 billion in funding to erect a wall along the United States-Mexico border to help block the flow of immigrants, leading to a stalemate with Democrats that has resulted in a partial shutdown of the federal government.

In a statement to the Times on Dec. 7, The Trump Organization, which owns the New Jersey golf club, pledged to terminate any workers it found to have been hired using fraudulent documents, which are typically a made-up Social Security number and green card.

Managers at the golf club and at Trump International did not respond to requests for comment on Ms. Torres’s account. A Secret Service spokeswoman, Cathy L. Milhoan, said she could not discuss what measures the agency took to vet employees at the golf club. “The U.S. Secret Service does not comment on our protective operations to include the administration of our name check program,” she said in a statement.

Ms. Torres said she believes the undocumented workers she identified to management also had their names removed from the list given to the Secret Service, but all of them, she said, remained on staff at the resort.

At least one other undocumented employee at the resort, Victorina Morales, a native of Guatemala who had been illegally in the United States since 1999, said she was given a Secret Service pin to wear when the president was in residence at the club. Secret Service officials said the pin did not signify that she had passed any security clearance.

Ms. Torres, 43, said she was hired to work at the resort in early 2015 using a falsified Social Security number and Permanent Resident Card. She had informed a manager during her job interview that both were phony, she said, and the documents were photocopied for club files when she started working there.

After a few months working as a housekeeper, Ms. Torres said she complained to management about what she felt was abusive treatment by the housekeeping supervisor and was moved to the kitchen, where she started as a dishwasher. She said she worked her way up to assistant to the chef, earning $14.50 an hour.

Among other tasks, Ms. Torres noted that she made sandwiches for Secret Service agents when they began visiting the property. She also prepared food for Mr. Trump.

Mr. Trump had praised her work and tipped her when she was in housekeeping
, Ms. Torres recalled. But she and other former employees who have spoken with The Times said they grew increasingly uncomfortable with Mr. Trump’s derogatory comments about immigrants during his campaign. “When he won the election, fear took over me,” Ms. Torres said. “I felt I was in the lion’s den. I had to leave.”

Ms. Torres quit in early 2017, after finding another job.

Since The Times’s initial report that the golf club employed undocumented immigrants, three additional immigrants have come forward, saying that they used fraudulent documents to secure jobs there and that management was aware of their illegal status.

Ms. Morales was still working at the club when The Times published its report, but has not returned to work since. She said that when her initial fraudulent green card expired, a manager at the club arranged for her to be driven to a place where she could obtain new counterfeit documents. She said he lent her money to purchase them.

Since the article was published, the Trump Organization has been quietly scrambling to bring its golf club work force into compliance
, according to former employees who have been in contact with colleagues at the club. Checking whether employees are authorized to work in the United States has resulted in the termination of about a dozen people, according to these workers and another source familiar with the organization’s workings, though management at the club has not confirmed their accounts.

More broadly, the company is reviewing its staff at many properties to ensure they are authorized to work in the country, according to a person briefed on the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity. While the company is believed to have conducted such reviews in the past, according to the person, not all of its properties were in compliance.

A lawyer representing some of the undocumented former employees, Anibal Romero, contacted the New Jersey attorney general’s office and the Office of the Special Counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, in October. Mr. Mueller’s office then referred the case to the F.B.I., said Mr. Romero, who said that both state and federal authorities contacted him in November. Mr. Romero said that he handed over, among other material, the false documents that a manager had helped Ms. Morales obtain. :whoo:


Neither state nor federal authorities have confirmed that they are conducting a full-scale investigation into the matter.

A spokesman for the New Jersey attorney general said that, “as a general matter, our office does not confirm or deny investigations.” A spokeswoman for the F.B.I. declined to comment.
 
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Neither IMO. Republican voters ride for Trump. They'll support him no matter what, the wall (or lack thereof) won't change that.

Republican politicians realize this and are just trying to put themselves in good standing with the MAGA crowd so they can get the same benefits (ie. unwavering loyalty) as Trump. It's not going to give them any leverage with Dems but Republican voters will like it.
That wouldn't make much sense considering Trump's core base is roughly a third of the country. It works for him because he's already in office but that subset alone won't get another R voted into the WH.
 
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