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Is it far of a reach to think that Papadopolous or Flynn were instructed by the Special Counsel to continue anti-Mueller rhetoric so as to not alert Trump and friends in their new roles as informants?

It seems counter-intuitive to beat a case by snitching and then antagonize the people responsible for your freedom. When you have an upcoming trial, sure, but once you are on the other side, having avoided jail time, it seems illogical to tempt fate again, especially with such an advanced group of prosecutors.

A smart criminal would know not to trust Mueller and Flynn since they skated (or likely will skate) on serious time but Trump is dumb enough to fall for it. Perhaps they are landmines waiting to explode when Trump associates assume loyalty and share information with them?
Papadopoulos, no. He's married to a spy.
 

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to be fair, Giuliani has the WOAT client ever :manny:
I think that Guiliani's role is to leak information that is destined to come out to soften the blow when it happens. Especially looking at the interviews over the weekend, he is selectively non-committal about what he confirms or explains away as not being a crime. Immorality aside, I am starting to think that he comes across as incompetent because of the sheer amount of lies he has to remember in his head.

He is balancing what is known with what will be known with what he knows and doesn't want to share.
 

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I think that Guiliani's role is to leak information that is destined to come out to soften the blow when it happens. Especially looking at the interviews over the weekend, he is selectively non-committal about what he confirms or explains away as not being a crime. Immorality aside, I am starting to think that he comes across as incompetent because of the sheer amount of lies he has to remember in his head.

He is balancing what is known with what will be known with what he knows and doesn't want to share.
Yep. He's been doing it the whole time. All he does is pre-empt arguments.

You notice how he Kinda just jumps the gun on certain arguments in a way that tries to make it seem natural but he knows how bad this shyt is.
 

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Roger Stone Admits Spreading Lies on InfoWars
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By publishing retractions of earlier statements, Mr. Stone could avoid paying $100 million in damages to an exiled Chinese businessman.
As questions swirl about his credibility, former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone settled a defamation suit seeking $100 million in damages on Monday for publishing false and misleading statements on InfoWars.com, a far-right website known for promoting conspiracy theories.

The agreement requires Mr. Stone to run ads in national newspapers, including The Wall Street Journal, apologizing for making defamatory statements about a Chinese businessman who is a vocal critic of Beijing. It also requires Mr. Stone to publish a retraction of the false statements on social media. Doing so exempts him from paying any of the damages.


In a text message, Mr. Stone described his conduct as “irresponsible” and added that “I am solely responsible for fulfilling the terms of the settlement.”

Unrelated to the Russia probe, Mr. Stone’s, settlement is the latest indication that Mr. Stone’s use of various media platforms to spread unfounded claims isn’t without consequences. Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office is investigating Mr. Stone’s role in orchestrating stories about key events being examined in the Russia probe, the Journal has reported.

Adam Schiff (D., Calif.), who is expected to take control of the House Intelligence Committee, said on Sunday of Mr. Stone’s testimony last year: “I believe there’s ample reason to be concerned about his truthfulness.” Mr. Stone has accused Mr. Schiff of “smear tactics” and said he stands by his testimony.

The settlement resulted from a lawsuit filed in Florida federal court in March by exiled Chinese businessman Guo Wengui. Mr. Guo sued Mr. Stone for falsely accusing him of being a “turncoat criminal who is convicted of crimes here and in China.” Mr. Stone also accused him of violating U.S. election laws by making political donations to Hillary Clinton, according to the lawsuit. It is illegal for foreign nationals to donate to U.S. election campaigns.

Mr. Stone did not respond to a question about how the settlement impacts him financially. In recent weeks, Mr. Stone has publicly complained of his mounting legal bills, which are likely to soar higher as he continues to be of interest to investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election.

“This threatens to bankrupt my family and destroy me financially,” Mr. Stone said of the Russia probes on an InfoWars broadcast earlier this month. He asked for financial support and said his bills already exceed half a million dollars.


Mr. Stone has repeatedly claimed that prosecutors will have to go through him to get to President Trump, and that he will never testify against the president, whom he has known for decades. He has criticized the investigators on social media, calling the special counsel’s probe a witch hunt run by “Deep State hit man Robert Mueller” and his “minions.”

A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment. Mr. Trump has denied colluding with Russia, and Moscow has denied interfering in the U.S. election. Mr. Stone has denied wrongdoing.

Earlier this month, Mr. Trump praised Mr. Stone’s “guts” and credibility, tweeting that Mr. Stone wouldn’t “make up lies and stories” by testifying in Mr. Mueller’s probe. At the time, Mr. Stone’s lawyers were already negotiating his settlement with Mr. Guo.

Mr. Guo drew scrutiny from Beijing in 2017 after he launched a high-stakes social media campaign alleging wrongdoing and corruption by China’s political and business elites. Beijing declared Mr. Guo a criminal suspect and requested an Interpol arrest notice against him, while Mr. Guo applied for asylum in the U.S., making him a flashpoint in China-U.S. relations.

Mr. Guo became a target of Mr. Stone’s a few months after launching his campaign, according to the lawsuit. In an interview last month Mr. Guo claimed that Mr. Stone was paid to make the defamatory remarks about him on InfoWars. He said the payment ultimately came from a Chinese-American media tyc00n named Bruno Wu, whom Mr. Guo previously accused of being a spy for the Chinese government. Mr. Wu has filed a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Guo for these and other claims.:weebaynanimated:

Mr. Stone’s settlement identifies Mr. Wu as “the apparent source of the information” about Mr. Guo and says it was conveyed to him by a former member of Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Mr. Stone said he should not have relied on the former staffer, Sam Nunberg, for the information. Both Mr. Nunberg and Mr. Wu declined to comment.

Write to Cezary Podkul at cezary.podkul@wsj.com and Shelby Holliday at shelby.holliday@dowjones.com
 

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How is this different from TLR cats posting a circa 2016 clip of Obama saying that election fraud is impossible? Once the evidence changes, so can the story. I'm not sure attacking the NYT to be more forceful in predicting unknown unknowns is going to lead to a better democracy...
 
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