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@The Black Panther we tried to tell em.

@DEAD7 @the cac mamba add another reason why that thread should be bushed. It's nothing but easily disproven propaganda.

Facts.

The worst thing about it is that clowns like @Ozymandias , @Great Scott , @newworldafro , and @thekingsmen will never come back and correct it.

They're not interested in facts or truth. Neither is it to argue one point consistently. That's not their goal.

Their goal is to push their ideology. It's an ideology of disputing the "official narrative", as if all common beliefs are inherently suspect.

Doesn't matter if their original source retracted the statement.

Doesn't matter if it's been solidly debunked by several sources, including those that favor their viewpoints.

Doesn't matter if their subsequent arguments directly contradict their earlier claims.

The damage was done as soon as the misinformation was spread.

It's why they act like children when you point out that their sources aren't credible (Jimmy Dore, Washington Times, Washington Examiner, Drudge, ZeroHedge, Gateway Pundit, etc.).

They've found a source that agrees with them, so you must be a "shill" or "mad" that someone is "going against the narrative".
 
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Facts.

The worst thing about it is that clowns like @Ozymandias , @Great Scott , @newworldafro , and @thekingsmen will never come back and correct it.

They're not interested in facts or truth. Neither is it to argue one point consistently. That's not their goal.

Their goal is to push their ideology. It's an ideology of disputing the "official narrative", as if all common beliefs are inherently suspect.

Doesn't matter if their original source retracted the statement.

Doesn't matter if it's been solidly debunked by several sources, including those that favor their viewpoints.

Doesn't matter if their subsequent arguments directly contradict their earlier claims.

The damage was done as soon as the misinformation was spread.

It's why they act like children when you point out that their sources aren't credible (Jimmy Dore, Washington Times, Washington Examiner, Drudge, ZeroHedge, Gateway Pundit, etc.).

They've found a source that agrees with them, so you must be a "shill" or "mad" that someone is "going against the narrative".


Exactly. The thread really needs to be deleted if not bushed outright.

Also I'm worried more people of that goal/mindset will come here because of that thread existing.
 

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MI6 regrets helping Vladimir Putin to win power, says ex-spy chief



MI6’s assistance to Vladimir Putin during his rise to power, whereby it ensured that Tony Blair attended a social event with him, is now regretted, its former head has admitted.

Sir Richard Dearlove, who was chief of the Secret Intelligence Service from 1999 to 2004, said that in the run-up to the Russian presidential election in 2000 he had been approached by a senior KGB officer in London asking for MI6’s help
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The officer asked if Mr Blair, when he was prime minister, would be willing to attend the premiere of Sergei Prokofiev’s War and Peace opera at the Mariinsky Theatre in St Petersburg alongside Mr Putin.

“We had a long discussion in London whether Tony Blair should accept the invitation or not and we decided on balance that this was an unusual and unique opening and we accepted the invitation,” Sir Richard told the Cliveden Literary Festival.

When asked later if there were regrets within the service at having “burnished” Mr Putin’s reputation, Sir Richard said that he was “sure now there is significant regret”.


“But bear in mind that we went through a period when our relationship with Russia was rather positive,” he added. “Little things then started to intervene and little things became big things.

“We had the issue with [Boris] Berezovsky’s non-extradition; we had the Chechen leader Akhmed Zakayev here in the UK, the Litvinenko murder.

“So what had been a good relationship for maybe a year and a half to two years became suddenly awkward and very difficult as the nature of Putin’s regime became more and more evident.”

Sir Richard said that he was now reluctant to refer to Mr Putin, who was previously a KGB officer, as “an intelligence officer because I see that as a noble profession”. He said that the attempted killing of Sergei Skripal in Salisbury in March suggested a “crisis” in the Russian intelligence service.

“An important message is that the integration of Russia into the western business system has actually made it much easier to collect intelligence on Russia because there are so many more opportunities, so much more access to influential Russians.


“Why on earth would Putin, if it was him, order the assassination of Skripal? I think it is reflective of a crisis in Russia that they have been so heavily penetrated since the disintegration of the Soviet Union that they are now trying to bolt the doors; to make it clear that if you are recruited by western intelligence then you will never, ever be safe from Russian vengeance.”

Sir Richard said that while Russia might have been able to use technology to influence the American presidential election in 2016, “I don’t think the impact was such as to change the result”. He also said that he was “pretty sceptical” that Russia had interfered in the Brexit referendum. Sir Richard added that he did not think that President Trump was being “manipulated” by the Russians.

A dossier compiled by Christopher Steele, a former MI6 officer who was head of its Russia desk, alleges collusion between Mr Trump’s aides and Russian officials, as well as sexual escapades by Mr Trump with prostitutes in Moscow. Sir Richard said that even if the claims were true, the US president would brush them off.

“One thing that Trump doesn’t seem to be is sexually compromisable given how frightful his past is,” Sir Richard told the festival. “He just brushes it off. Even if he got up to no good, as the Steele dossier seems to say, in a Russian hotel, I just don’t think he cares about that sort of thing.”


 
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