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your avg middle class american doesn’t even know what socialism really is. if anything a more left socialist presidential candidate running would just push democrats to not vote imo

my parents hate trump, are democrats but i couldn’t see them voting a full on leftist :yeshrug:
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your avg middle class american doesn’t even know what socialism really is. if anything a more left socialist presidential candidate running would just push democrats to not vote imo

my parents hate trump, are democrats but i couldn’t see them voting a full on leftist :yeshrug:
If your parents would not vote the Dem in the presidential election because they are too “left” than they are the kind of trash we are talking about in here that ruined the fukking country. I have thought out every explanation for someone to cast a vote for trump (that includes not voting or voting 3rd party, because that is a vote for Trump) and to me anyway, nothing anyone can say to not be regarded as trash.
 

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Americans are very insecure. They'd rather not vote for someone with whom they actually agree on most policy questions solely b/c they don't want to be called a "liberal" or "socialist."

It's madness.
No, no that’s not entirely true. They don’t want to vote democrat because that’s where the black people are.
 

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If your parents would not vote the Dem in the presidential election because they are too “left” than they are the kind of trash we are talking about in here that ruined the fukking country. I have thought out every explanation for someone to cast a vote for trump (that includes not voting or voting 3rd party, because that is a vote for Trump) and to me anyway, nothing anyone can say to not be regarded as trash.

so because my parents arent far leftists that makes them trash that ruined the country? :mjlol:

no wonder people are running from “progressive” leftism in droves. jesus christ, you can live in your ideology all you want but we’re talking about reality here
 
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The average American is a high school drop out with a meth addiction.

that’s not even true in the least. some of y’all are seriously so disconnected from the middle class im pretty sure this forum is a lot of upper middle class suburbanites.

i live in one of the most liberal and leftist states and your avg middle class person here is a democrat who never went to college, doesn’t do drugs and works manual labor. many here supported bernie but hillary won our state because she’s a “centrist”. also even though our state is one of the most leftist, we have some of the highest rates of poverty in terms of POC. so how exactly is that working out here with democratic leadership?

i support far left ideologies, im a far left anti authoritian for fukks sake. but ideology doesn’t always translate well into reality

you want people to jump or board to the far left? look in the mirror. because people like you are part of the problem. you’re generalizing and putting down your avg middle class worker by calling them uneducated drug addicts while ignoring the fact that many people dropped out of school for a lot of reasons, a lot being that there’s alternatives to making more money without education. in the 70s it was pretty common for people to drop out of high school to join the army or to work a mill/factory job to help out their family. many people aren’t furthering their education because they can’t afford it under capitalism and putting people down for doing what they had to do isolates the middle class. if you truly understood the middle class and poor you’d get that and put context to understanding people rather than throwing around inaccurate generalizations because people vote what’s most accessible and sold to them.

majority of intellectual leftists aren’t reaching the avg middle class american because they are pompous and use language and terms that aren’t accessible or understood easily by your avg american who didn’t go to school to learn about the bourgeois and marxism
 
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If your parents would not vote the Dem in the presidential election because they are too “left” than they are the kind of trash we are talking about in here that ruined the fukking country. I have thought out every explanation for someone to cast a vote for trump (that includes not voting or voting 3rd party, because that is a vote for Trump) and to me anyway, nothing anyone can say to not be regarded as trash.
Isn't the reality that they'd vote for the less extreme candidate in the primary?
 

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The president is a traitor is too complicated for them. Stop giving them excuses.
that’s not even true in the least. some of y’all are seriously so disconnected from the middle class im pretty sure this forum is a lot of upper middle class suburbanites.

i live in one of the most liberal and leftist states and your avg middle class person here is a democrat who never went to college, doesn’t do drugs and works manual labor. many here supported bernie but hillary won our state because she’s a “centrist”. also even though our state is one of the most leftist, we have some of the highest rates of poverty in terms of POC. so how exactly is that working out here with democratic leadership?

i support far left ideologies, im a far left anti authoritian for fukks sake. but ideology doesn’t always translate well into reality

you want people to jump or board to the far left? look in the mirror. because people like you are part of the problem. you’re generalizing and putting down your avg middle class worker by calling them uneducated drug addicts while ignoring the fact that many people dropped out of school for a lot of reasons, a lot being that there’s alternatives to making more money without education. in the 70s it was pretty common for people to drop out of high school to join the army or to work a mill/factory job to help out their family. many people aren’t furthering their education because they can’t afford it under capitalism and putting people down for doing what they had to do isolates the middle class. if you truly understood the middle class and poor you’d get that and put context to understanding people rather than throwing around inaccurate generalizations because people vote what’s most accessible and sold to them.

majority of intellectual leftists aren’t reaching the avg middle class american because they are pompous and use language and terms that aren’t accessible or understood easily by your avg american who didn’t go to school to learn about the bourgeois and marxism
 
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