RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT

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Solid thread here, outlining why 45 is so dangerous, especially when it comes to Russia (although not explicitly stated by the tweeter):
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i don't know who that guy is but he just took a shyt on cheeto's chest with all that.
i didn't read it all but from what i gathered he is saying that the whole operating
system of our politics is being re-written but people who are opposed to trump are
still trying to use commands from the old operating system and are frustrated when
normal functions cease to work.

how do you debate fear?
how do you argue with hate?
how do you talk to a lie?

trump embodies all of these and the people who support him are mirroring it.
facts often get trounced by lies that feed on hate and fear.
they act as force multipliers upon each other.

the facts are just the facts and at their best are dispassionate and plain.

this should be what we all should be seeking out but there are those among us in this
country who are so deep the emotional tornado that is our POTUS that nothing can be said to them.
nothing can be shown to them.
nothing they read will change what they think.
evidence has no meaning to them.

how is this dilemma overcome?
 
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Does it get more blatant?



The Global-Right-Wing-Conservative-Russia axis couldn't be more apparent

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https://thinkprogress.org/why-is-th...ting-with-a-russian-neo-fascist-b84eb73aa549/
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Why is this Pizzagate truther meeting with a Russian neo-fascist?
Far-right darlings Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone head to Russia to meet with Alexander Dugin.
Jun 10, 2018, 10:23 am
Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone meet with Alexander Dugin. CREDIT: YOUTUBE
After they were barred from entering the U.K., far-right darlings Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone decided to head to a different country altogether: Russia.

Southern and Pettibone — the latter of whom has described herself as “one of the leading authorities on Pizzagate” — announced the trip late last week, and have already released their first video from the visit. Instead of speaking with local politicians or opposition activists however, they settled on sharing the thoughts of one of Russia’s most well-renowned neo-fascists, Alexander Dugin.

Dugin has gained a fair bit of coverage over the past few years. Much of that attention stems from his advocacy of the geopolitical theory of “Eurasianism,” positing Russia — which he describes as “Eternal Rome” — not only as a country entitled to control all nations that made up the Soviet Union, but as one eternally at war with the West, which he refers to as “Eternal Carthage.”

Brittany Pettibone and Lauren Southern yukking it up with Russian neo-fascist Alexander Dugin. CREDIT: YOUTUBE
Southern, though, claims that Dugin isn’t actually a fascist, but merely a misunderstood philosopher. As she wrote on Twitter, “It’s incorrect to call him a fascist.”

Dugin’s denials, of course, are akin to “white nationalists” or members of the so-called “alt-right” insisting they’re not actually white supremacists. Indeed, Dugin’s neo-fascism is all but impossible to miss.

Not only have other Russian fascists referred to him as the “St. Cyril and Methodius of Fascism,” but Dugin also initially made his name at Pamyat, described by one analyst as the “most significant anti-Semitic organization during perestroika.” Or as one of Dugin’s friends said, he was “looking for any sort of elevator to the top, and [he] found it in fascism.” He even named his alter ego after the former Nazi official in charge of paranormal research, and helped introduce a number of prominent anti-Semitic conspiracy theories to Russian audiences.

Dugin further acted as one of Russia’s primary supporters during its invasion of Ukraine, calling for Moscow to annex further territory throughout Europe. As Dugin memorably said a few years ago, it was necessary for Russia to “kill, kill, and kill Ukrainians.”

Russian attempts to woo American white supremacists have backfired
A quarter-century after American neo-fascists began looking to Russia for support, the relationship is on its heels.

Along the way, Dugin — whom former KKK higher-up David Duke referred toas “one of the leading intellectuals of Russia’s patriotic movement” — has built up a number of ties with American fascists. Not only has his site previously published ramblings from white supremacists like Richard Spencer, but in 2015 Dugin filmed an address for the launch of white supremacist Matthew Heimbach’s Traditionalist Worker Party, issuing a “common message” to his “American friends.” Shortly thereafter, Dugin also worked with American neo-Nazi Preston Wiginton to deliver a taped speech at Texas A&M University.

Softball supremacists
Predictably, Southern and Pettibone failed in their first video to ask Dugin about any of his fascistic beliefs, or any of his proposed policies of Russian revanchism, of support for Russia’s invasion in Ukraine, or his calls for a new “Eurasian Empire.” (Southern also referred to him as “Professor Dugin,” even though he was fired years ago for his genocidal rhetoric.)

Instead, the interview was drenched in softball questions. Among the questions Pettibone and Southern asked:

  • “Mr. Dugin, what would you say are the most important challenges that are facing the Millennial generation today, particularly within the Western world?”
  • “Where do you believe modern conservatism in the U.S. is headed?”
As it is, Southern and Pettibone have pledged more videos with Dugin in the near future. But in a follow-up video, Southern said she was “enthralled” with Dugin, and that he “open[ed] so many doors” for her.

Southern added that she’d spoken with people “who have translated [Dugin’s] works to English,” and who warned her of the criticism she might experience for interviewing the neo-fascist. While she didn’t name these translators, Dugin’s most prominent English translator is none other than Richard Spencer’s wife, Nina Kouprianova, who has gushingly praised Dugin in the past.

As Kouprianova has said, Dugin is a man of “rare intellectual caliber” and “one of the greatest minds of our time.” And if Southern’s reactions to interviewing Dugin are any barometer, it appears she may think the same way.
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